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x5dmr
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# Posted: 23 Feb 2004 23:47


So this weekend a friend and i went looking for salamanders and stuff, because soem would be breeding. friday we were unsuccessful. it was cold and wet, and i had been feeling sick all week, so it wasn't fun. but on saturday we went to another place and we found 6 small mouth salamandersm, and 3 or 4 bull frogs, and around 4 green frogs. and we found some smallmouth sal. eggs.
Then later that day we went to this one small stream and found 2 stream side salamanders (almost identical to small mouth, except a bit stalkier and lighter in color) and we found 3 adult two-lined salamanders and 4 two lined salamader larvae. and then on sunday we found a few more small mouth salamanders. it was a lot fun.

frogfan
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# Posted: 24 Feb 2004 04:48


Where do you live?

x5dmr
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# Posted: 24 Feb 2004 04:51 · Edited by: x5dmr


I live in Columbus, Ohio. I found all those at place i know near Dayton. But a buddy of mine just found a jeffersons salamander today here in columbus.

Brian
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# Posted: 24 Feb 2004 05:17


That's cool. Most of the abundant salamanders here have direct development so no common larvae really except for newts.

Josh
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 01:46


Did you keep any of it? So you know, there are laws in place in Ohio(just so you know) that state any reptile or amphibian native to Ohio needs to be microchipped and have a permit for to be kept by a person living in Ohio, even if its captive bred.


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Brian
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 07:20


Is that actually enforced strictly?

x5dmr
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 11:56 · Edited by: x5dmr


No i didn't keep any, just went for pictures and stuff. plus i don't think it would be right to take any during breeding season anyways. But i woulnd't want to risk it becauase i may be working for the DNR people in a year or two. But yeah i know the laws, and that is a good point. I think everyone should know the laws before they go out and either collect or just go for observational purposes.
For example i know (atleast i am pretty sure) that in national and i think state parks, and i am not sure about metro parks, it is illegeal to take many things, like plants and animals from the park with out proper permits. and in some places people aren't even allowed off the trail with out certain permits. so it is always good to check the states Division of Natural Resources websites for the proper info.

Josh
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 17:19 · Edited by: Josh


If you get caught it's enforced. That is if the person that catches you even knows about the law. I was gonna get a Tiger Salamander but can't because of that law.


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x5dmr
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 19:55


I was looking on the ODNR Wildlife page, and i don't think you need the PIT tags for amphibians, just turtles and snakes. and it would make sense, due to the small size of some amphibinas, such as the redback salamader, and spring peepers.

Josh
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 19:59


That's good, I was under the impression they wanted everything tagged.


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x5dmr
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 20:04 · Edited by: x5dmr


from what i understand, just native species of live snakes once they reach lenghts exceding 18 inches and native turtles when their shell lenghth exceeds 4 inches.

also another reasonwhy they might not need to tag amphibians is because of the sensitivity of their skin.

Josh
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 20:15


Ok, I just printed up the article, it's too small to ready in the adobe acrobat form, you'd need a amgnifying glass to read it on your computer like that. But basically even f you get something from a pet shop you need excessive documentaion that a pet shop will not give you, such as breeder infrmation breeder liscence number and such. So basically everything you get will be marked as wild caught even if it's not, which means you can only have 4 of each species at any given time. They really don't want us to have anything native to here I guess.


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Josh
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2004 20:17


If anyone wants to read this fun little document here's the link to it http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/PDF/pub03.pdf it's in adobe acrobat form though.


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