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greene
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2012 21:01


I was woundering if it is best to use whole leaves or leaves that are torn up into small prices. Also is it safe to use leaves from outside * no pesticides have been used


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FwoGiZ
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2012 23:09


oak and magnolias are the most common,
i let them outside a whole winter then let them get sundried, then i use em
i crush them to mix it in my substrat and i put a layer of whole leaves on top of substrat


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greene
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2012 23:16


Would this be a good choice for a toad or not


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FwoGiZ
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2012 23:37


leaf litter is always a good choice!
except maybe for fatfrogs


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greene
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2012 00:23


What do you mean by except for fatfrogs- my toad may be a little over weight


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Eric Walker
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2012 01:09


He means frogs like pacmans and pixies that pounce on their food with their mouth wide open.

greene
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2012 01:20


Ok. Do you ever have problems with the crickets hiding under the leaves?


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Sandy_Bear
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2012 02:20


Also is it safe to use leaves from outside * no pesticides have been used

I use leaves from outside, (obviously from locations that don't spray pesticides or herbicides, etc,...).
Fresh leaves can be washed in a 1:10 ratio of bleach to water and rinsed well. Fresh leaves can either be pressed to dry or allowed to dry naturally. Once dried, they should be baked. Washing them is optional, but baking them is a good idea as it kills any bugs that may be living on them. There are people that don't do either, so it's up to you.
Dry leaves that are collected in the fall, can also be used. Preheat the oven to 200 degrees Fahrenheit and bake for 20 minutes.

Oak, Magnolia and Sea Grape are the top 3 choices to use. The reason for that, is that they last longer then other types of leaves.
You can use other types of leaves, like Maple, Poplar/Aspen, Grape Vine, etc... however those types of leaves will degrade faster - which isn't necessarily a problem if you have seeded your tank with springtails or woodlice, as they will eat the decaying leaves.
Just be sure that the leaves you choose aren't toxic.


Do you ever have problems with the crickets hiding under the leaves

Yes, crickets and other feeders LOVE to hide under the leaves. You may want to feed extra, or get a glass dish (like pyrex bakeware) and bowl feed your toads.


Would this be a good choice for a toad or not

Yes, leaf litter is a great choice for top layer of substrate. Many terrestrial amphibians love it, and so do some arboreal ones as well.

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