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cherisse
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2009 01:50


Found a beautiful site this evening when I decided to do an egg check.

I had noticed that over a 24 hour time frame, the known female in my group of 8 had lost a lot of weight.. and I was hoping that it was for a good reason.

There appear to be about 20-25ish eggs in the entire mass. This was laid under one of the three coco huts that I have in their tank. I also added a small pool of water a week or so ago, in hopes of stimulating breeding behavior.

so far so good, although there is no telling how long the eggs have been there. They probably will be no good, but the mass has not clouded over yet.

despite the pictures appearance, the picture was taken in subdued lighting and without a flash, hopefully this will reduce any chance of damaging the developing eggs. The moss was placed over the eggs and the mass is still in the tank.

It will be removed in a few days.




YAY!


sort of blurry, sorry.


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macspoison
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2009 02:08


Any success in this direction with mantellas is good success.

One needs to think about the value of what they have there. We charge a lot for CB frogs that are STILL being imported by the thousands, yet frogs that are a breath away from extinction get very little respect money wise.

Congrats to achieving this step, fingers crossed for the next step!
Mac


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cherisse
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2009 02:58


I really hope this clutch is fertile.

I have been reading so much about supplementation and water quality for mantella tads, and I am eager to try a few combinations.




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k412
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2009 03:46


Congratulations! I hope they are fertile as well!!!
Best of luck!


Nature has no mercy, people have the option.
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cherisse
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2009 03:52


Thanks!

This is their second clutch. The first never made it, and clouded over quickly.

here is a pic of the only known female in the group.. I have my suspicions that I have one or two more females though...




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k412
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2009 05:24


Pretty!!!
Like a little dart tomato frog.


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__M__
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2009 15:35


Congratulations, that is great news!

One needs to think about the value of what they have there. We charge a lot for CB frogs that are STILL being imported by the thousands, yet frogs that are a breath away from extinction get very little respect money wise.

Thats very important point and a big shame, considering mantellas are as pretty as Dendrobatids, and in many ways in much bigger danger due overcollection and habitat destruction, its time for the hobby to get more sustainable. We may get some forest back in Madagascar but these species would be lost forever. Luckily the news atleast indicate that importation will be closed (? correct me on this one if you know better!), so these few frogs that are maintained in hobby will have hopefully a much bigger value than they have now!


Only dead fish go with the flow.
cherisse
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2009 16:06


I believe that importation has ceased for the Miloytmpanum.

The last shipments came in Spring of this year... im pretty sure anyway.


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gothaicus
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2009 06:38 · Edited by: gothaicus


Congratz cherisse! I wish you many many more milos.

I heard somewhere that importation is to stop for milotympanum, viridis, and expectata in 2010 but importation will resume in 2010 for cowanii, aurantiaca, and haraldmeieri. I have no idea if this is true or not.
I'm sure the info is on CITES website.


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Hayden
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2009 11:16


I believe the importation of M. Aurantiaca was stopped several years ago.

gothaicus
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2009 20:47 · Edited by: gothaicus


I believe the importation of M. Aurantiaca was stopped several years ago.
Yes, aurantiaca's importation stopped several years ago but! what I was saying is that I heard that cowanii, aurantiaca, and haraldmeieri will be imported once again in 2010.
Also, as I said....myself or somebody else needs to check CITES to know for sure.

EDIT:
Ok....so I guess the people I heard from about the 2010 exports were even speculating or know in advance cause on CITES website they only have 2009 exports list up.
http://www.cites.org/common/quotas/2009/ExportQuot as2009.pdf Page 24
Looks like aurantiaca had 2500 exported this year. Who knew?


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macspoison
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2009 23:08


I said that they were still on the list this past spring and was laughed at!!

Jarrod, a friend of mine told me he had them avl and showed me. The question comes down to will they be allowed into the US. Macaws are still exported and imported into Europe...
Mac


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