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spydergirl4594
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 04:50 · Edited by: spydergirl4594


Well as if the RETFs havent given me enough problems, I have yet another. Ugh,maybe I'm not cut out for this. Anyways,its been hotter ltely,and my Juvi red eye(the first one i got,my survivor) had been hiding on moss and under plants for the past 3 days,well he came back out today and was looking alright. I noticed he had a darker nose a few days ago but i thought he had just gotten dirt on him from under the plants where he was sleeping. Then last night when he was soaking i noticed it went away. then today it is back and looks a bit choppy, like pinkish colored) it is definately not dirt. But i dont understand how it couldve gone away last night and was fine but it is back tonight. It isn't really aorund his mouth, maybe a littl eabove his upper lip,up to his nostrils. What can i do for this?I was going to dab on some neopsprin but wanted to check first because I'm not taking my chances. These RETF have given me quite some trouble, I don't want to give up on them, i just hope I'm not doing anything wrong.Seems like I am with all these problems all the time! Luckily the other baby is filling out extremely nice,and his colors are the nicest I've ever seen. He is outstanding. Little flimsy survivor babyfrog is beautiful as well, but is my problem child. Hmm,wonder if i can get a good name out of that one. JR? ha.Thanks for any help in advance.


-Sheryl
Alechan
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 05:12 · Edited by: Alechan


Wow...RETF seem terribly delicate. Where did I read that they were good frogs for starters? Damn, they are damn hard to take care of.
Donno about the problem on the mouth, sorry.
About the name for the other one : as it has bright colors what about Arlequin? eheheh
Donno if u are familiar with it, but Arlequin is an italian traditional character wearing a brightly colored outfit.


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lukeybaby
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 05:38


i think it is a fungal/bacterial infection, i think he bruised/scratched his nose rubbing it on the aquarium trying to escape, then he hid under the moss/plants for three days which would be very high humidity.
high humidity + sore/strees=
fungal infection

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spydergirl4594
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 05:42


ah,he never did try to escape, he had absolutely nothing like this before he went into his little hiding tiff. Either way whatever it is needs to be treated. preferably without a visit to the vet($50 fee for visit alone is beyond ridiculous,but if I must,I must) So what can I do to help clear it up? Is this really serious?Im scared now!


-Sheryl
amyjk
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 06:18


Can you post pics? I'm guessing fungal too.
How is he acting? Is he eating? And are you positive he hasnt tried escaping? Or at least been jumping into things? If he looks bad, I would take him to vet. Im very protective and dont like to try home "remedies" and vet can prescribe antibiotics.


Amy :)
lukeybaby
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 06:31


yep, maybe not escaping but did he hurt his nose or bruise his nose? could this have happened with you being unaware of it?

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spydergirl4594
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 07:01


possibly so. He hasn't been eating much, has only had about 4 crix in the past 3 days,and has had that whole back leg thing going on. he has been soaking,but eventhough the tmeps are back to normal hes still sleeping on the ground in the shade. ill take some pics tonight and post them. im almost positive he hasnt tried escaping,i watch him all the time when hes awake(im addicted) he couldve hurt his nose somehow but the only way i can think of is by trying to burrow or maybe on the corkbark. I did have some river rocks in there but they were very smooth,and have since been replaced by pillow moss. ill take a picture of him now. thanks.


-Sheryl
spydergirl4594
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 07:24 · Edited by: spydergirl4594


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-Sheryl
spydergirl4594
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 07:28


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-Sheryl
cheshireycat
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 07:29


...maybe just special.

Nah, it's not you--the links don't work. Anyway, I hope your frog turns out alright.


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spydergirl4594
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 07:31


NOOOOOO idea how to do this. It simple,Im clickign ont he pic,goign to properties and copy thelink and all and it doesnt work. If someone knows how to do it i would appreciate it,ill give you the link to the individual pics instead.

http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbumPhoto.asp?userid=Spydergirl4594&albu m_id=139947&image_id=26

http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbumPhoto.asp?userid=Spydergirl4594&albu m_id=139947&image_id=28


-Sheryl
cheshireycat
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 07:32


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cheshireycat
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 07:33


See, it's not you.


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cheshireycat
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 07:39


My frog had a similar greyness on his nose, too. And another one had the greyness on a scratch. I don't know what of the several things I tried may have worked, or if the froggies immune system took care of it, but I assumed it was a fungal infection and it went away soon after I came here, so never lose hope.

Anyway, the people at your job wouldn't know what it is? They don't have a vet or anything that might? Because that would be ideal since they could actually see the frog and have something tangible to work with. Especially with the leg stuff you're talking about. I'm sure that you'll come across an answer in this forum, but a vet at your work could also help you treat it, no?


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lukeybaby
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 09:00 · Edited by: lukeybaby


how long has it been there for??? if it has been there all the frogs life and it is not growing, i wouldn't worry about it, it will dissapear as your frog grows. one of my WTF's had the same thing, dark patch on his nose, but it dissapeared as the frog grew. if it black patch continues to grow, it is definately a fungal infection, then take it to a vet a get proper antibiotics. how high is your temp??? if you dont know, you should buy a hygrometer, to tell.
i will look up some info on fungal infections for you
any more Q's u can e-mail me on
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luke z


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lukeybaby
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 09:12


i JUST noticed that your RETF has neon spots on its back, which can be a sign of stress. i am leaning to fungal infection at the moment.

luke z


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lukeybaby
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 11:39


"Rare in adults, but not uncommon in tadpoles and metamorphosing froglets, fungal infections manifest themselves as areas of inflamed skin surrounded by whitish threads. If untreated, fungus infections can be fatal. Caught in it's early stages,a fungal infection can be treated by immersing the tadpole or frog in a 2% solution of malachite green or mercurochrome for five minutes, repeating after 24 hours. If no improvement is apparent after three such treatments a veterinarian should be consulted."


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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 12:35


You should get curochrome, instead of mercurochrome, as it doesn't contain mercury and mercurochrome isn't for sale anymore. You can buy malachite green in a pet store or fish magazine.
lukeybaby
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 14:01


yeh ur probably right, i just copied it from a site!

luke z


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spydergirl4594
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 14:35


hmm about the vet thing. The only vet herp in my area is the one who comes to my work, Dr. Denish. And he charges $50 a visit. I'm not too happy about it but if it gets any worse I'm going. He comes in every friday so I think I may just bring my frog to work and ask him to look at it. I dont know why so expensive, its outrageous. But its my responsibility. Now about the fungal infection, it doesnt look to have any sort of white threads as that quote says and it looks as though it may possibly be growing. I'm moving him int oa hospital tank today. it definately isnt a dark patch as i originally though,because after cleaning off it is definately a pinkish purplish color. I've got all those hydrometers and temp guages in my tank and th every hottest its been in my tank is about 90,which has since been corrected(and it was caused by my parents cheapness and not wanting to turn on the AC,i should make them pay)Now everything is back to normal, about 82 during the day, and roughly 78 at night.(cant get it much lower) the humidity is at a constant 60-70%. I wonder why these buggers are giving me so much trouble. Has anyone else had a problem frog like this other then dana's bobbie? I feel bad, but geez,gimme a break buddy. Oh well, If i can do anythign at all at home to maybe hold him over until friday please let me know. thank you.


-Sheryl
becki
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2003 15:58


It definitely does not look like rub nose and while I've never see the very early stages of nose/mouth rot, this doesn't look like that either. Having said that, I'm not much more help because I don't have an educated guess as to what it is. It could be a fungal infection - the high temps will cause the frogs to do what he did and hide to retreat and also increase pathogen growth as well. As far as the problems you're having, RETFs are a delicate species but I haven't had any problem with my set up keeping it just like they like it and I haven't had any problem with them. They are very touchy when it comes to changes in their environment. I can't advise any treatments so I'd just have to recommend a vet visit. Sorry not of more help.
Becki

lukeybaby
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# Posted: 29 Jun 2003 01:34 · Edited by: lukeybaby


i know our doing the best you can sheryl, keep doing what your doing and see what happens. the "whittish threads" are the "scab" of the frog sore, if he had a small bruise or scrath you may not be able to see the threads. if the patch continues to grow take him to a vet, i still think it is a fungal infection.

luke z


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lukeybaby
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# Posted: 29 Jun 2003 05:23


sorry im meant "your" doing etc


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lukeybaby
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# Posted: 29 Jun 2003 05:24


cant spell today!!! lol


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spyderirl4594


# Posted: 29 Jun 2003 13:39


lol,don't worry luke,i can never spell. Well, it seems as i can add another list to my deceased,. Found BabyFrog this morning. The infection has spread further,past his eyes. He had eaten 2 crix yesterday, but I suppose it wasn't enough,he was so skinny. Poor thing, I feel bad,like it was my fault. I know they may be a harder species to take car eof,but no one else seems to have any problems with theirs which is why i feel so crappy. Well my remaining is looking the best I've even seen a RETF look(not that no one else's are as beautiful as my baby is!)soo fat and purty. Thanks for your help,all.
lukeybaby
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# Posted: 29 Jun 2003 13:52


oh geeze, so sorry to here that, you know you did the best you could. at least your other RETF is going good! so his infection spread past his eyes, its definately a fungal infection, anyway at least you will be prepared if it ever happens again!

luke z


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