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twixster
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 04:13 · Edited by: twixster


what you use as a glue to keep the egg crates down and screen on the egg crates that are water proof, also that may not harm dart frogs cause the water will touch it and the water goes up into a stream


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Josh
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 04:15


Actually I don't use any glues, I just put the spacers on the bottom of the tank where I want them then sit the egg crate on top of that, then put the screen on top of the eggcrat, then gravel on top of the screen, then my substrate. Those spacers aren't going anywhere with 15 pounds of substrate on them, and enither is the eggcrat if it's cut to the right size.


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twixster
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 04:18


you sure?can you use the stuff they putt on the cages to seal it although I may want to get it off in a couple of years



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Josh
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 04:23


The only way anything like that is gonna move is if you are trying to move the whole tank by yourself and tip it to its side. The other people with tanks like this should reply soon, they'll tell you.


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twixster
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 04:30


ok,thanks for trying, I might just have no choice but that,I might try it


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twixster
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 14:57


anyone plz


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x5dmr
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 15:30


I am going to agree with amazinglyricist here, even though i don't ahve a set up like that. there is going to be a lot of weight in just substrate alone that will keep those eggcrates from moving. plus there really shouldn't be any reason for them to move, unless your stand is tilted and it slides (which i don't think) or if you are going to be moving it around a lot (which wou;dn't be a good idea at all). My point is, that with out anything cause the crates to move, then they shouldn't and won't move, especaially with substrate on top. i know that is all repetative,but try it. get the crates put them on the kitchen counter, but some weight on top (say 5 pounds) and you will see what i mean. And i apologize if i sound harsh in this, because i don't mean to be, i am just trying to make the point more clear. best of luck, and let us know how it turns out.

CivicChick
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 19:54


While we're on the subject.....I have some airplants & darn it I can't get them to stay in the air . I've tried suction cups & such things, but I want a way to like mount them to the sides of the aquarium. Anyone have any suggestions??

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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 20:29


I've never used any type of glue or sealant to keep false-bottoms together. If you have the time and some silicone sealant laying around you could use it but there isn't much of a need for it. Like the lyriscist wrote the weight of the soil keeps it in place.

Tillandsias can be attached with silicone sealant or liquid nails. A little tiny drop at the base of the plant is enough to keep them in place. I use mounting wire or fishing line most of the time but if you are attaching them to glass a water proof amphibian safe adhesive would be best. Good luck,

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twixster
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 22:58 · Edited by: twixster


the thing is I'm taking the edge of the egg crate off to get it so I can have a pond In the false bottm like this


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\_/ ---that's the pond cut off from he rest ofthe egg crate kinda hard to under stand but I need a sealing


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twixster
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2004 22:59


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the digram won't work!


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Josh
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2004 00:02


You're gonna need a lot of cleaning if you wanna make the false bottom a pond, I suggest trying just a dish sunk inthe the substrate as a pond.


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twixster
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2004 00:11


grrrrrr ok I think that's what I'm gonna have to do,Lee the reason I'm asking this stuff is cause the one I had the egg crates ready in wasn't strong enough so I took it apart


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lostriver
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2004 01:40


Civic Chick-- use silcon, not the bathroom type, but the #1 or #2 GE. You don't want the runny silicon with anti-fungal additives. The plants won't mount to the plain glass, however, and survive. You need to have some kind of back-ground such as cocoas fiber board or cork bark already siliconed on for the arial roots to attach. Another alternative, if you are using pressed cocoas fiber or cork bark is to use bamboo skewers and toothpicks to put the plants in place and support them until they take hold.


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# Posted: 20 Feb 2004 02:27


Twixster, I've never done egg crate false bottoms, so you are probably talking to Josh here. I frankly don't even know exactly what they are, except they shouldn't go anyplace and don't need to be glued as long as you aren't tipping the tank.

I use a non-technical system because I'm basically a dunce. I put coarse rock and gravel in the bottom of the tank, about 3 inches of it, mix it with some charcoal, just because my grandmother told me so. Then I put a layer of a plastic weed inhibitor used for gardens on top of this. It has tiny holes in it so water goes though, but the substrate doesn't filter through it. Another thing I've used for this barrier is cocoanut fiber matting--coarse stuff used for mats to wipe your feet at the front door. In one corner of the tank, I dig to the bottom with one finger, for a kind of sump, put in some aquarium airline tubing and from this, suction out any excess water that accummulates, starting the sumping action with a 30 cc veterianarian syringe into a bottle. I use the water that is suctioned off to water house plants. All of the waterfalls and other features within the tank are self contained. I either sculpt them out of Winterstone or otherwise contain them in glass barriers. The waterfall pumps work within this, not from the ouside, and there are essentially no filters, except for my one paludarium, where there is an aquarium filter.

I'm certainly not recommending my methods as better than any one elses'. They do require daily attention, and if you go on vacation, God forbid getting anyone to do the same thing you do without at least 6 weeks training.


Lee
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