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Mach
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 06:00


I have a question, i have a level of gravel that serves as my drainage layer, I have a layer of screen then my coco fiber. I have a small pond with a water fall, the pond is the same level as the rest of the tank. But i think when my "misting system"[" " is a whole nother problem] is going the water filters through the coco fiber and makes coco coffee in my pond, so it looks disgusting. I want to have nice clear water.

So after all that will a filter work to make it clear?

Or is there ant other way?

Any other suggestions will be apreciated.


Name: Mac Harvey
Age: 16
Locality: Davis,CA
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memnoch1970
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 06:28 · Edited by: memnoch1970


your setup will probably work better if your pond was lower than your substrate. its hard to say without a photo. read this article on pumps. you can put some filter fiber in the butter tub so the water going through your pump is filtered. you camn get filter fiber at any fish store. you will understand what im talking about after you read this article please read this it will help. http://www.saurian.net/htm05/froginfo_terrerium_se tup.html http://www.petco.com/product/5294/Petcetera-Filter -Fiber.aspx


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Mach
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 16:04


I couldnt load the petco one, so where exactly do you put the filter fiber, because my pump is just hidden under water, it is not in a little tub or any thing. Aslo doesnt the pump also need some sort of chemical cleaning like carbon filter?

I read the first link and it helped except i dont use the little tub.

Also my water level is about 1.5 inches below the substrate.


Name: Mac Harvey
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memnoch1970
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 19:29


if you put your pump in the tub yuo can put the fiber all around the inside of the tub. it creates a filter of sorts it will keep your water alot clearer.


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KittenClaw22
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 19:34


Basically even if you filter it tannins are always going to leak from your substrate into the water if the water is going through the substrate.

The best solution would be a glass divider. Silicon a peice of glass across your vivarium. On one side use the drainage layer with screen like you have it set up, on the other side set up the pond with the filter or pump. The nasty substrate water wont get in your water feature, and your water feature will stay cleaner. Some substrate will still end up in the water but it shouldnt be enough to clog the filter or pump or cause tannins to discolor the water.


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Mach
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 22:05


I thouhgt of that kitten but then how do i drain the water out of the substrate section, because i have no drilled wholes in the tank.

So i guess i will have to go with the filter.

O and just wondering, what do the streams in the rainforest look like, i would imagine they would have a lot of tannins from the leaves and wood, so is that what it would look like, just a little cleaner?


Name: Mac Harvey
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Locality: Davis,CA
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memnoch1970
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2007 00:08


use a siphon , stick the tube down in the rocks, it will pull 90% of the water out.


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KittenClaw22
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2007 01:52


I dont have any drilled holes in my layered substrate and it has never built up. Just don't over mist. You won't have any problem with a water bowl splashing out, so you shouldnt have enough build up to have to siphon it.

With natural evaporation and normal misting you shouldn't have any build up.

You can see some small amount of water in the layered substrate here:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/KittenClaw/Le ucomelashousefront.jpg

And that was right after setting it up, when I was still heavily misting every day to maintain humidity. After the enclosure is established it usually requires less misting.

The streams in many of the rainforests are crystal clear from the natural filtration of running over the rocks. They only turn murky or discolored if they are stagnant. Just like American rivers and streams. You can usually see the bottom of the stream and see how clear the water is unless its churned up.


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Mach
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2007 06:40


i have a pump with a filter some where so i will try that first.

thanks everyone


Name: Mac Harvey
Age: 16
Locality: Davis,CA
Frogs: only darts now
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