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# Posted: 19 May 2004 19:10


I mix, things many
NatureTrey
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# Posted: 20 May 2004 23:34


First off, if you want to post you should register with an identity, because most people marked anonymous are just here to pester others, because for some reason they have nothing better to do. secondly your post should read "i mix things, many" not that im a scholar or anything but still. and third mixing is a bad thing and common of many novices (no offense to anyone out there). although i do know a couple of very, i repeat, very experienced people who mix species that are the same size and come from the pretty much exact same conditions (from what ive read or been told at least). The most common ive seen are dart frog species.
im not sure what kind though, id have to check up on that. ive also talked to a guy who keeps Agalychnis callidryas and Phyllomedusa tomopterna together. I personally wouldnt try that though. Any ways if your experienced and know what your doing and it works for you then you keep at it, as for me and others that i know i wouldnt advise it.


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lostriver
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# Posted: 21 May 2004 01:40


Anonymous, I sure hope you don't catch anything but an education by "mixing things many." Generally anyone who posts anonymously and ungrammatically, without detail, is merely here to annoy us.

Nature Trey-- I think the Europeans in particular do some successful mixing of dart frogs, but as you point out, they are very experienced. They usually have set up rather extensive habitats, as well. It's almost always the people who are just beginning and know nothing that want to immediately mix. They picture something like a Marine tank, or a tropical fish tank full of color, not realizing there is a decided difference. Frogs are not "show and tell."

I'm not sure what this particular Anonymous is mixing, but like all of our other Anonymouses, is obvioiusly not very well educated or experienced, probably very young, and most often just cruising to annoy. Occasionally, some shy person might come in who is serious. So we have to give the benefit of the doubt for just a little bit. We have to be kind as far as it goes. But who knows one "anonymous" from the next? To whom are we talking?


Lee
NatureTrey
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# Posted: 21 May 2004 03:21


i totally agrre with that lee. i dont know if you were talking about me specifically or not, but if you were i would just like to point out that i wasnt trying to be unkind to anyone, and if i came off that way im sorry. i get told that i come off that way alot when im trying to make a point, (im getting better at it though ). i just want to ask, if you are a shy person, that you register with an identity and get to know everyone. im very new to this forum and i would have to say that the people here are some of the friendliest and most patient people i know of. So there is really no reason to be shy about anything.


All the reasonings of men are not worth one sentiment of women. *~* Voltaire
lostriver
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# Posted: 22 May 2004 00:05


NatureTrey--I was not suggesting you were being unkind, just trying to explain further to the anonymous poster that you get better answers if you post as a real person. I was reminding myself to give the benefit of the doubt more than anything, because seemingly pointless posts make me crabby.


Lee
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# Posted: 25 May 2004 21:25


where can i purchase bed-a-beast???


Dudz
lostriver
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# Posted: 26 May 2004 01:13


At almost any pet store. PetCo has it.


Lee
bonsai
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# Posted: 26 May 2004 21:46


Some stores will carry eco-earth and/or forest bed brand, which is the same co-co husk material compressed into a brick.


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Brian
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# Posted: 26 May 2004 22:29


Although one brand I tried was more fiberous then I liked. Maybe it was just that brick.

bonsai
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# Posted: 26 May 2004 23:41


Oh, really. Do you remember which one?
When I first joined the forum, back in Nov. '03, everyone was talking about bed-a-beast and I couldn't find it at the two PetCo's near me and I bought eco-earth (I think, will check tonight) and it was mostly of coffee grid consistency.


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Brian
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# Posted: 28 May 2004 02:52


I honestly don't. There were three I see occationally. Eco-Earth, BAB, and (Forest Bed?) Anyway, I remember buying a brick once that had too many long fibers for my likeing. Maybe it was just a bad brick though.

bonsai
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# Posted: 28 May 2004 06:07


What I have is Eco Earth. You probably were right about it being a bad brick.
This thread is about mixing and we are getting off onto another tangent.


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nicdec
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2004 16:52


I recently bought a Pacman frog from my local Petsmart. I know these frogs don't move around or do much but the way they are keeping them there is horrible. They have about 10 of them in a 10 gallon tank with gravel & water. Since they cannot be housed together each frog is separated in a small tube only a little bigger than their bodies. They can hardly even turn around or move. I wish I could have rescued them all, at least I helped one!

-Nicole

Charlie
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2004 17:27


thats a little worse than deli cups. A lot of places I go that deal in pacs mostly house them in deli cups with paper towel sub.


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# Posted: 15 Jun 2004 18:41 · Edited by: spydergirl4594


geezus thats ludacris. i admit i did have to put two pacman frogs together in one 10 gallon in work. they are both the same size(just babies,about 1 inch),and i have noticed they keep their distance well. if i see any prolems whatso ever,youd bet id seperate them. but space is limited


-Sheryl
Charlie
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2004 18:57 · Edited by: Charlie


yeah, ones the same size are ok in a temp setup like breeding. But then again breeding em without pumping the females with hormones is just about near impossible. All of my local sources tell me that at least. but they dont keep them together permanantly.

That and the baby pacs that they keep in em, go fast.


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spydergirl4594
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2004 01:08


oh yeh exactly,it is only temporary. they sell like hot cakes. if it does turn out to be a little longer then temporary,then everyone gets their own enclosure.


-Sheryl
ginevive
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# Posted: 5 Jul 2004 14:30


Sheesh. What a thread.
Mixing is best avoided. It's for ameteurs and kids who don't know any better. They'll learn the hard way when their animals suffer. Sad but true.


-JEN- :)
Derek Benson
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# Posted: 5 Jul 2004 15:43


I used to use bed-a-beast ($7 a brick here), but found a Fluker's brand fr like $3 a brick, and then found another brand, I'll look at it when I got check on waxys, and it's like $8 for 3 bricks.


Derek Benson - Phyllomedusa/Hyperolius Enthusiast
Brian
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# Posted: 5 Jul 2004 21:53


Hmm, all the brands I've seen here are about $5-6 usually.

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# Posted: 11 Jul 2004 15:25


It's brand is Eco-Earth.


Derek Benson - Phyllomedusa/Hyperolius Enthusiast
WhitesGirl
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2004 18:09


They sell bed a beast here.....3 to a pack for 7 bucks!!!!!!!! i used to have to pay 3 bucks a piece for those things.....! i love petsmart
that stuff works great with my frogs!

Derek Benson
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2004 18:12


yea, I think places bundle thme up and sell cheap, which is great.


Derek Benson - Phyllomedusa/Hyperolius Enthusiast
Josh
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2004 05:49


About breeding pacmans, it's not that hard at all, I was nearly successful, would have been successful if my female had not drowned in amplexus, she was full of eggs and the male was all set to go.


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ginevive
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2004 13:33


I have found a cheaper alternative to BAB; it goes by some generic name, but it's just about half the cost of BAB. I can't recall the name though; pretty pointless post I guess.


-JEN- :)
Brian
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2004 02:41


I'd like to know what it is. Out here nothing is bundled and it's all the same price.

Derek Benson
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2004 03:00


Josh,

Breeding horned frogs is obviously hard, since your female died during the process. I believe the large breeders use hormones.


Derek Benson - Phyllomedusa/Hyperolius Enthusiast
Josh
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2004 17:07 · Edited by: Josh


Derek, the only reason my female drowned is because I failed to provide an adequate haulout area for her, so she was carrying around her weight and his while trying to keep her head above 3" of water. The large scale breeders use hormones because they're trying to make a profit as quickly as possible, and don't care about thier animals long term health. And I'm sure the cycling of them doesn't work every single time to get them to breed. Breeding your waxys is hard breeding clawed frogs are really easy, breeding horned frogs is somewhere in the middle, you just have to know what you are doing, and obviusly I didn't think everything through before I bred mine or my female would still be alive.


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treefroglover37
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2004 22:07


does any one know if you can put a whites and a clown tree frog in the same aquarium. And what other frogs doyou suggest to put with them?

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# Posted: 14 Jul 2004 22:08 · Edited by: Whitney


Please read through the rest of this thread starting with page 1.


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