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Gnag the nameless
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2012 01:49 · Edited by: Gnag the nameless


This isn't a very important issue, but it does con concern me. I'll give you an overlay of my Rana Clamitans' setup first:

20 Gallon tank, rocks in the middle, then gravel behind the rocks on one side. On top of the gravel, moss, then plants forming a kind of forest. A clay cave. 2 inches of water (That 50% of it I refresh 2-3 times a week), some store-bought fake water plants. Glass walls for the tank. No humidity gauge. Temp: 65-70 (Room temperature, it goes down during nighttime by a few degrees.)

Onto my real issue, after the clean-out of the tank, my frogs are a bit frantic, swimming and hopping around. After half an hour, they settle down. Gnag, my larger male, is always very calm, he almost never panics or even moves from his spot when I approach the tank. Problem is, my smaller frog Bumpy (I am unsure of his/her gender) is very skittish. Often, if I approach the tank, she swims around madly, and digs down under the moss. I don't like it when she/he goes under the moss, it concerns me, and often I gently try to encourage him/her to stay on top of it by adding more hiding spots, or gently pushing her up to the surface. Is there any ways I could make my Green frogs feel less stress, and be more comfortable?


My Amphibians:

2.0.0 American Bullfrogs
2.0.0 Pacific Chorus frogs
1.0.0 Long Toed Salamander
Charlie
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2012 03:23 · Edited by: Charlie


You could try papering the sides of the tank for a while to let it have time to get accustomed to its home. Then take one side at a time off over a period.

Loud music, children, cats/dogs, loud voices (especially when spoken over the tanks opening), glass tapping, television, fast movement, lack space to avoid each other, food competition, as well as predation can all affect your frogs level of stress.

If Gnag is much larger than Bumpy, he could be ill at ease all the time just thinking he could get ate. Who knows for sure.

One things for sure, 20g is way too small for two of these guys. They can get up to five inches S2V.

Us old timers used to advise something around a 100 gallon tanks footprint (thats per frog) for bullfrogs and greens. They are not congregating frogs except during mating. The most important thing is the footprint, the tank doesn't have to be really tall.

Greens are skittish pond/river/stream dwelling frogs by nature. In the wild they leap for water, and croak when they feel threatened. This is completely natural behavior for them actually.


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Gnag the nameless
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2012 05:33 · Edited by: Gnag the nameless


I'll definitely take a shot at the papering idea, although I've had these frogs for three months now.

I have been keeping my two cats away from the tank, although they have shown no interest whatsoever toward the frogs. I'll quit talking as much, as you suggested, in the room they are in. Food competition might already be a problem as Bumpy is a tad more skinny than Gnag. They do seem to have good areas to avoid each other (Gnag takes to the water most of the time while Bumpy stays on land or hides in the clay cave, or simply burrows under the moss). Would guitar playing frighten the frogs a lot?

As for Gnag eating Bumpy, I might've said it wrong when I said Gnag was bigger than Bumpy. Yes, he is, but he is only by about two centimeters.

Yeah, I'm planning on getting a bigger tank for the froggers soon, perhaps around December. They're both pretty small at the moment, though, which makes me question that they are Green frogs. I'm not sure what else they could be, since where I live (BC) doesn't have a wide range of frogs, and Northern Green frogs are the most common around where I live, and also best match the appearance of my frogs.


My Amphibians:

2.0.0 American Bullfrogs
2.0.0 Pacific Chorus frogs
1.0.0 Long Toed Salamander
Charlie
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2012 16:00


Practicing an instrument, could theoretically. I had frogs that used to sing along with certain sound ranges.


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