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Amorei
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 11:15


I saw a link to these forums posted on another site so I thought I'd try my question here also.

About a week ago, we had a tree frog crawl into our 2nd story apartment window. He popped in, took a look around and hopped back out. A day later, he came back, hopped to the ground by our dog, so we scooped him up and put him outside. This morning he crawled in the window again, sat on the sill and started chirping away for about 15 minutes while we watched him. Then he cuddled up in the corner and I think fell asleep. Heís been there for most of the day now, inside, but close to an exit in the window. Weíve grown quite fond of this little guy and are concerned with his odd behavior. Winter is getting closer, itís chilly outside more days then not. We are considering making him a tank habitat so we can care for him during the winter months, but donít want to make him unhappy by caging him up. We canít have him jumping around the floor by our dog, a 200lb St. Bernard, so letting it do what it pleases isnít an option. Soon weíll have to close that window for good and he wonít have the option to get inside anymore. Obviously this is a forum of frog lovers, would you take the little guy in since heís comfortable around us and likes it indoors? or would you close the window off so he canít get in and leave him to his natural habitat. We live in Wisconsin. Will he hibernate or will the cold of the winter kill him? Thanks in advance .

Jmeyer
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 16:23


He will definitely hibernate during the winter months and then maybe end up coming back to you guys after the winter is over. But if you really want to keep him aroudn you could make a tank for him. But because he's just one little frog i would do a really big nice tank. To give him lots of room. But he'll be fine in the wild.


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Amorei
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 16:32


Thank you I really would love to keep him. His chirping sounds are adorable. But, I think I'm just being selfish and he'd be happier outside. He has turned me into a frog lover though. I'm definately getting a pet frog. Maybe if we stick him outside once more and he comes back again I'll keep the little guy indoors. Unless anyone has a reason why that's a bad idea.

thefrogwoman
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 17:39 · Edited by: thefrogwoman


it's so cute that he's taken a liking to you guys! he's probably thinking of your house as a place to hibernate lol


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Amorei
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 17:53


lol I was thinking the same thing. He's been in the corner of the window sill for well over 24 hours now. Waking up twice to chirp for a few minutes and then going back to sleep. I've never cared for a frog before but all of the websites are saying tree frogs are quite active. This one is definately not.

After a talk with hubby we're both leaning towards housing him for the winter and letting him go again in the spring. Could I get some recommendations for good websites on frog habitats? Money is tight, it can't be anything fancy, but I'd like to make sure he's well cared for.

rae
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 20:06


Can you describe to us what it looks like or possibly post a pic? Different tree frogs need different care and habitats, also, just so you know, keeping a frog involves work and money, because they need places for hiding, a shallow water bowl that needs to be changed every day, and live food that you either need to buy in a pet store, a bait shop or order online. You might want to keep this in mind when you are deciding whether to keep it or not.

But they are very cool to have and a real joy


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Amorei
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 20:38


I don't have a cam to put a pic on here with, but I believe he's a Copes Grey Tree Frog. He's a light green color with a brown jagged strip on his side from his eye to about the center of his belly. We've been comparing him to pictures on google. I understand the Copes Greys and the Greys look alike, but being that we're in Wisconsin my best guess is it's a Copes Grey.

I understand the food and upkeep costs money. Substrate, plants and food are fairly cheap. As are the calcium supplements. I'm trying to learn about them as fast as possible, lol. Is there a big cost I'm missing besides the tank itself? That's the cost I'm worried about. I'm finding small setups for $150+. Ugh.

I'm also reading that they eat crickets. Can those be replaced with live meal worms?

rae
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 20:49


Well... Their diet should be made up of mostly live crickets, but you can also throw in other things (like mealworms). I wouldn't give it only mealworms though.


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thefrogwoman
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 21:08 · Edited by: thefrogwoman


if you have a cameraphone, the pic from that can suffice but it sounds like you got it under control tree frogs need bigger tanks than burrowing frogs, it's true. you can search craigslist or ebay for cheaper tanks! some people on here really luck out with free tanks on CL.

my budgetts frog i actually had hibernate in the tank

crickets can be purchased in bulk on the internet, as well as various breeds of roaches or other treats. many worms too from baitshops like mealworms, yes.

he might be less active because of the chillier weather. the chirping is a good sign he's fine though.

oh and a warning: you might get addicted to frogs now!


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Amorei
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 21:21


thefrogwoman - LOL I'm already addicted!

We have a cameraphone but not a cord to hook it up to the comp

I've been checking CL and ebay but I think the reptarium on Joshsfrogs looks like a good one. What do you think? It's only 22.99 for a 22 gallon tall. I'm not exactly sure what a reptarium is made of though. Are the sides screen? The Q&A sections says it's ok for tree frogs according to reptilesupply.com. If that's the case this little guy isn't going to be as expensive as I thought.

If the concensus is that it must eat crickets, crickets is what he'll get. They're just such noisy little buggers. lol

Thank you everyone for responding and answering my questions. It's nice to be able to talk this out with experienced frog owners. I know the other option is to put him outside......again. But, if he wants to stay inside who am I to argue

rae
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 21:26


The sized crickets that you would be getting for a gray tree frog don't make any noise, only the adult crickets make the chirping sound. By the way, when getting food for your frog (that is if you keep it) make sure that it is no longer than the distance between it's eyes.


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thefrogwoman
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 21:39


if you sign up for a free photobucket image hosting account, you can just text msg (if your phone is capable) to the address provided! and then photobucket is how we post pics to our frog forum threads anyway!

i was searching the forum & found how someone kept a tank for their greys tree frog (you can do a similar search and find all sorts of useful info here!):
http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?action=vthread &forum=3&topic=22052&page=0#1

and here is more info about the same frog:
http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?action=vthread &forum=2&topic=22736&page=0#1

some more on the copes' cousin the regular grey tree frog:
http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?action=vthread &forum=5&topic=2546&page=0#3


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sandyleew
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 23:02


I have 3 gray tree frogs right now that are wild caught. They are very easy to keep. I got a really nice tank on freecycle. I just put down that I wanted one and got a few replies. The one I got was a bit dirty, but cleaned up nice.

Amorei
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 23:04


I have a photobucket account but I can't send emails from my phone, lol. Gah I suddenly feel old. I'm going to text the picture to my friend once he's off work and see if he can email it to my photobucket account for me.

On a happy note we decided to take the frog off the dry window ledge he was so fond of and put him in a temporary, more humid home with a few branches and crickets from outside. He Immediately turned a bright green color and ate the crickets faster then we could set him down. He's currently wondering around the housing looking for more crickets (I think that's what he's looking for anyway) Needless to say, I think he's comfortable and will like his home once it arrives in the mail.

Amorei
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 23:05


I was posting at the same time you were sandy, lol. Thank you, I'll check them out also. Free is always better

sandyleew
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 23:06


I thought the rule was prey no wider than the space between the eyes. Is this incorrect? My grays eat some pretty big crickets and the ones outside eat some really huge prey.

daystorm
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2010 23:50


umm, one this no one seems to be mentioning. IF you're going to be keeping the frog for the winter... you get to always keep the frog. It's really not a great idea to let a frog go after you've been caring for it, for reasons such as it can't get a ready meal dropped in front of it at regular intervals in the wild, it won't have predators in the tank with it so when you let it go it could have issues there, never mind the parasites or bacteria it could get and pass onto the wild frogs in the area. It is up to you what you do, but there is no half way here, either you leave it or you keep it.


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Amorei
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2010 00:00


That's a good point Daystorm and I have no problems keeping it. In fact I'd rather keep him then have to let him go.

I just went to check on him again and he's just chillin in his water dish. So cute. I used bottled water for now. I'll get the drops to purify tap water tomorrow.

A question about vitamins. On joshsfrogs there are so many calcium supplement options. Which is best? With D3, without D3, originial powder or ultrafine, herptivite multivitamin....all of the above? none of the above?

thefrogwoman
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2010 01:26


in my opinion, most important is that food is dusted in calcium--the rest is whatever lol. also, feeding crickets "cricket drink with calcium" can help


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Tony C
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2010 01:16


Repashy Calcium Plus is the best supplement on the market by far.

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# Posted: 15 Sep 2010 23:38


Charge it rent..

Tony c is right.. The rapashy is the best..


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thefrogwoman
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2010 01:04


Charge it rent..

lol!


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ksmith
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2010 19:28


i have a question, too! there is a gray tree frog that keeps hanging out near our window and on our porch. hes precious! i am also wondering if i should take him in.. if hes getting too cold now that its fall..(i live in michigan)
i cant help but feel like he wants us to! ahh! what should i do?
he keeps showing up!
thanks!


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Franswa
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# Posted: 1 Nov 2010 13:45


I brought in some plants to winter over inside. While having my coffee one morning, I was serenaded by gray tree frogs that had nestled into the plants. I was delighted.....I love these guys! I took them out by my pond so they cold find a good winter home. Well, I just discovered one I had missed. It is quite cold out now, (Michigan), and I'm wondering if he would be okay inside for the winter. He is wondering around my mud room. I bought some aquatic frog food and put out water and it's disappearing so I know he's eating this. What is the best food for these frogs? I plan to just let him go where he likes and let him out in the spring. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

Fryguy
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# Posted: 2 Nov 2010 00:26


try leaving out a small dish of meal worms
i would get a big 20-25 gallion tank set up for it to live in.
but if you want to keep it free, cover up vents and other "deth traps"and PLEASE!!!!!! wach where you walk their kinda hard to see


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Franswa
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# Posted: 4 Nov 2010 02:12


Thanks for your input. I was wondering if I could safely intergate this little guy into hibernation and then place him outside. I am a firm believer in letting wild things maintain their natural order. If not, I will get an aquarium for him and do my best to see him through till spring.
Thank you so much for the help! Fran

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