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kev31
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2007 21:11


Is it ok to put a gray tree frog in with two big eyedtree frogs of the same sise temporaraly..Like a few days?


If we dont leave things the way we found them our children wont know how or were to put them back. K.F.
kev31
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2007 23:18


anyone


If we dont leave things the way we found them our children wont know how or were to put them back. K.F.
Rick Cabrera
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2007 23:24


I did and i had no problems. I had him in there for like a month. The tank i used was a 29 gallon. It shouldnt be a huge problem if it is just temporary.


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 00:28


I believe, as far as I know, mixing species of any kind is a bad idea. You should never mix species and if you're thinking of doing it... just don't. If you're getting a new pet frog, get another tank for the two guys.... don't put your frogs at risk..

Just because the pet store does it, doesn't make it right. The only real reason they do it is because they have no other space for the frogs.


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 01:06


Ya thats true. But i dont think that it could cause enough stress to the animals if he only did it for a few days like he wants to do it. As long as he knows they are both healthy and without disease. But mixing permanently might not be a good idea.


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 01:07


What size is the tank you are going to use by the way?


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KittenClaw22
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 01:21


Size of the tank does not matter. They still pass diseases, parasites and etc.

These are two radically different species, from completely different parts of the planet.


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Rick Cabrera
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 01:41


Again i agree. But if he is going to put 2 HEALTHY frogs in a tank in a TEMPORARY situation, especially just a few days like he says, and they have enough room to stay out of each others way, there shouldnt be too big of a problem.


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 01:49


You do not know if they are healthy. Just because you get them from a reliable source. You'll never know something is healthy until you get them quanitne (sp) for that month long stage.

Also, if you're getting multiple frogs, please put them all in separate tanks. Even if one is healthy, or all , you don't know that. Better be safe than sorry.

Just a heads up =)


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 01:56


He only asked if he could do it. He did not specify how long hes had the frogs or if he already went through the quarintine. Nor did he say he just bought it. I said if they were healthy, and what i meant by that was, that he had went through the process of making sure they werent diseased, and now was asking the question. I might of been wrong by assuming that it was a frog that he has had for a while but, again, you dont know if he just bought it either. Lets just Clear it all up and ask him.

So how long have you had the frog for and why are you needing to put it in a tank with a big eye?


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 02:51


Yeah but even so, you shouldn't mix different species - it does stress them out even for a couple of days ...

I mean, he can do what he wants it is his pets, however it's very frowned upon in the frog world (to some anyway.....) to mix species...

/hug


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 02:57


Of course one can do what they choose to with their own pets. He asked us for our opinion by starting this thread. 2 out of 3 replies say no. (make that 3 out of 4 now) IMO it's not worth it when you can get a small critter keeper or something similar for a few bucks that will work fine for a few days. It may have worked for some, but there are risks present, don't cut corners and just do it right.


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 02:58


I would like to know WHY they need to be temporarily put together? I would imagine it is because they are just getting the one and need to setup a tank which would mean that the one has not be quarantined to be observed which means you not only risk the one frog, but all.

There is no need to put them in together at all, you can just use a plastic tub if you need to for a few days. I wouldn't risk them.

And to reduce it down to "can it be done" is really irrelevant, it is like saying can I put a lion and a tiger in together, well sure you can but should you?


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 03:34


I wonder who the guy who started this thread is thinking? Maybe he didnt realize how much his question would get people talking. Any ways you all make a valid point. But at the end of the day, hes probably gonna do whatever the heck he wants to do anyways.


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Jennifer
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 03:44


Well I think that Kev should go into the tank with the big eyed tree frogs (that will show him what it feels like to be one of two species in a tank) and he should give the big eyed tree frogs the run of the space he usually uses for those few days.


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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 06:11


Definitely not a good idea to mix species in the same tank. Parasites, diseases, and stress can lead to mutliple deaths. Even for a short time is not good as far as stress goes. The stress factor will sky rocket as soon as the strange frogs are introduced. Just not a very wise decision in my opinion.


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snafu
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 17:46


holy cow, someone asks for advice and all but gets put on the chopping block. Hi how are you? Can I help/slash sentence you today? Give the guy a break not everyone has 50+ yrs of keeping frogs, petstores are not a very big help, and a lot of times it's hard to even find a book on the frog species you own, then some books tell you that it is ok to mix this species with that, or just say mixing is frowned upon. No one really takes the time to explain that frogs from different parts of the world are immune to different diseases and such, like living in a bubble and then using public bathrooms. So, instead of trying to sound like a firing squad why don't we encourage less experienced people instead of trying to break them down?

Kev, mixing is possible but generally not a good idea, there are many better options than chancing the lives and health of your frogs.


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kev31
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 18:29


Thanks for the info I guess i should have wated to get all the opinions before I put the gray into the tank! It was only a mater of about an hour of being in the tank and my big eyes (Who never move in the daytime) both moved into a log on the oposite side of the tank from the gray NO DOUBT a sign of stress Itook him out right away .better to put him in his tank unfinneshed were he will have some stress than to stress them all thanks for the imput but I have to agree with the NEVER MIX approach.


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ravencelt
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 18:43 · Edited by: ravencelt


Snafu, I don't see one post here that was rude or sounding like a "firing squad" and believe me there have been plenty in the past that were...this is nothing heh. Kev asked for our opinions. We gave em. What's the problem with that?

Kev, I'm glad you kept an eye on them and realized that you needed to take him out. Good luck finishing his tank, and don't forget if you need to put him somewhere you can always stock up on the plastic tubs and he should be fine for a couple days till you finish the tank.


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Jay Willis
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 18:57


My vote is no.

I would set him up in a cheap plastic tub for a few days if I had to before I put him in the same tank with a different species.

Ragdoll
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2007 21:56


I agree with Ravencelt, no one was flaming and we have seen some nasty threads in the past.

Rick, there is nothing wrong with anyone asking a question, whether someone feels it is dumb or not, it is a way to get answers when you need them. I'd feel better answering a question than to find out someone did something wrong because they were afraid to ask.

I would also not suggest doing something like this without having the information about quarantine, mixing etc. It seems that though when other members disagreed with your saying it was ok and gave valid reasons why not to do it, you initially agree but then still try to say it is ok. There are many members here with a wealth of knowledge, let them share it.


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Rick Cabrera
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2007 03:49


I didnt try to stop them from convincing him not mix. . That was not my intention at all if thats the way i sounded. I have done what he was asking in the past so i let him know what worked for me. I didn't feel like i was attacked or attacking anyone. But you are right. I should ask for more info before i decide to give an answer. But i did state that it worked for me in previous occasions so i gave my experienced opinion not a researched opinion. But no harm no foul. Nobody got hurt.


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