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splishiesplashie
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 04:26


in one of your posts under the veggie frog you mentioned that you are a vegetarian. I was just curious to talk to someone else who is (its hard to find people who are). Were you raised that way or was it a lifestyle choice? If it was your choice what was your conviction? I know a few people i have talked to did a lot of research about this lifestyle and i was wondering if you did at all and sorta where and what did you go to for your information?

I am vegetarian and im raising my daughter that way too, but im always on the hunt for more information.

I don't want to be rude but i was wondering how old you were. I find it interesting when i do meet other vegetarians to see how different the age groups can be yet how similar their convictions in this area are.


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 06:55


Well thats not me..but i just thought i should say that i am a vegetarian. Its 1:36 am and im bored so ill answer all of your questions...haha.

I'm 18 right now and i've been one since before 8th grade..about 5 years. I def. was not raised this way, my parents love meat. My sister has been a vegetarian since she was 5, my choice in becoming one had nothing to do with her though. I've always, always loved animals..and im the kinda person who likes to ask questions and know things. So one day, randomly i just decided i wanted to find out "how the meat i ate got to my plate". So i just did some research online, eventually came across PETA's website. Watched those videos from slaughterhouses and animal experimentation..etc. At the time i think i cried watching about everyone of them. And that was it for me..i never ate another piece of red meat, chicken or anything again. As i got older i realized that PETA is a little nuts, but at the time i was younger and easily influenced. I thought they were the best thing in the world.
And a few years ago i learned that there were obvious health reasons as well.

I guess thats kinda my story. If you have any other questions i'd be happy to answer them

and Im curious...why/how did you become a vegetarian?

well im off to sleep now....

-Jackie

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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 07:04


I've been a vegatarian for 17 years.

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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 07:06


Sorry.. That was me.. First time I've accidently not signed in first.

Yup.. 17 years for me of being a veg.

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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 16:40


If you choose to be a be a vegetatian why not a vegan? Just Curious, I am neither but have a friend who use to be my roommate and she explained all this to me. She is mostly a vegatarian. she eats meat every once in a great while though. She was raised this way and her whole family is vegan I believe.


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 16:57


PETA beng a little nuts is an understatement. they are completely nuts. And I have seen more vegetarians with health problems than anyone else, due to their diets.


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splishiesplashie
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 18:44


Hey thanks Jackie and VWmom, I was just quickly typing out that stuff and I may have inadvertently narrowed it down to just one person lol... but ya... anyone can answer... thanks for doing just that lol.

So then what do you allow into your diet? I like to hit the library to do my research on most stuff because I


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 18:53


Ok, this is something I learned from my now ex-girlfriends sister, who is a vegetarian, a true vegan does not eat any animal matter at all, that includes by products, a normal vegetarian will eat things that do not harm the animal like milk and cheese.
I see some advantages of this diet, but mainly disadvantages, such as you will have to take suppliments to get all the vitamins and minerals your body needs. And if you don't eat meat for too long if you eat it it will make you sick.
If you do this with your daughter you should let her have some meat on occasion such as fish or poultry, I don't eat much meat myself, but I do eat it. I would sugggest that just so if she doesn't want to be a vegetain when she's older she can, and not make herself sick.


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 19:40


I have to eat meat. I am european. without my sausage, I am nothing


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 19:56


I eat no meat, fish or poultry...
I'm lactose intollerant so no dairy. So you could say I'm pretty much vegan. Though I do eat some baked goods (sometimes I can handle a little bit of egg product in baking.... sometimes).
Lots of veggies, friut and pasta.

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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 20:29


lol thanks lyricist... I used to know your name but I have, alas, forgotten... sorry had to use your handle.

lol MVE... my hubby is very polish... he feels the same as you do lol.

Thanks for clearing that up for me though lyricist... so... I guess that puts me into the vegan category, however I have heard what you said about meat making vegans sick after long periods of being without it is very true. I am strictly vegan, meat leaves me feeling ill even eating it daily, but for Grace, because she


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 21:13


amazinglyricist thanks for explaining it. That is what was explained to me, not necessarly a life style just a not animal product thing. I think even jello has animal product in it. You would have to look up all the ingredents in the dictionary to find that out thought. No one is ment to know what the words on the box mean. lol
I love meat and couldn't do this so I have to give you all props for being so self controled. I mean how do you go out and eat when every restrant and fast food joint is focused on meat. IT was bad enough when people started swearing off bread. they all had to include wraps for the low carb people. ??? I don't know How they would do it!


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 22:38


lol... yep we don't eat jello either lol... just the thought of it makes me wanna upchuck. Basically... we never ever eat out. If we are caught unprepared (it happends now and then) we will find a Subway... but that is the ONLY joint we eat at... even then... its just so expensive, cleaner than most... but not enough.
If you havn't seen the movie "supersize me" you should... its so funny but really eye opening... its taken second place in my favorite movie list. In this movie though it conducts an experiment with fast food on a normal healthy middle aged man(mickyd's is their focus, but it means all fast food) its amazing the effect it had on him. After the release of this movie different fast food restaurants then came out with their lighter/healthy choice menu's. Don't be fooled... mcdonalds healthy choice salad/s have as much or more fat than their doble cheese burger... thingy and im more than certian fast food wraps will fall under this same disguise. My rule of thumb in the last year and from now on... question everything... trust is higly overrated! Esp fast food companies.
I love meat and couldn't do this so I have to give you all props for being so self controled. hehe i have only been doin this for a few weeks now... i hope and pray my self control will keep up... i like some meats too.


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 23:03


what about the poor plants
vegan's only consume and use plant based materials, those poor plants are doomed!!! Will no one speak for the plants!!!! tee hee


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 23:06


I did see the movie it is funny and I can't believe how fast it affected him. Amasing how the doc thought it wouldn't effect him that bad. they told him to pull out. before he killed himself or caused permanent damage.
good luck. Like I said I couldn't do it. I try my best not to eat out as much but as fast pased my life is I couldn't go with out eating out atleast three times or more a week and that is bad. I wish I could make more lunches and pre made meals for when we had atleast a couple min to heat something up.


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 23:45


lol... another one of my motivations for not eating out... we're poor. LOL... im not just kidding... we have so many hungry bills we don't have two cents to rub together by the end of pay period.

LOL mve *crunches the leafy head off of another celery stick... nummy!


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# Posted: 3 Dec 2004 23:54


LOL mve *crunches the leafy head off of another celery stick... nummy!

noooooo!!!!!!!!
I never saw that movie supersize me, it seemed boring. of course you would be unhealthy if you ate nothing but fast food, umm, common sense anyone?


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# Posted: 4 Dec 2004 00:11


*crunch crunch crunch*

well yes... but what they were trying to illustrate is that there is a huge percentage of north americans who do consider mcdonals/burgerking/dairyqueen/etc an essential food group and do not have a clue that it might be bad for them. For instance... more and more north american children are being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes (the adult onset type). Diabetes alone shortens your life close to 20 years so you can imagine... a child with an adult size disease... doesn't leave much hope... and the reason for this is the junk they eat and the lack of "common sense" of their parents. They are also finding osteoperosis in young children more and more often... this is starting to be linked to the ammount of soft dinks being consumed by kids. I like to think of myself as pretty common sensical... but i can assure you i didn't know that!

<---opinionated... in case you hadn't noticed *grin*

sorry... *gets off soap box*

lol i originally directed this post at iq_two... and i think everyone on the forum but them has replyed to it *ofl*

guess im just stuck heading back to the library with a screechy baby!


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# Posted: 4 Dec 2004 00:25


ha ha. well. I will continue to post. I do not drink soda at all. I never really have. Just because I don't like the taste. but now I will say it is because I knew the affects all along. (play along with it.) ummm, i forgot what your original question to iq_two was.... (scrolling up...ah hah! something about eating poor little defenseless plants. sniff sniff:sad


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# Posted: 4 Dec 2004 05:10


Well I have a similar diet, but mine is due to Crohn's disease and not the vegetarian lifestyle. I was a vegetarian for 3 years,but I stopped about 4 years back when I gave into a taco . not only that, but i didnt balance my diet properly and became really sick and weak from the lack of protein.
Because of my Crohn's I cant really eat many red meats. I can handle it in very small quantities(one bite or so). I cannot handle dairy. Small quantities of cheese is it(one slice, no more). I cannot eat veggies- they are too rough for my system. only applesauce, or anythign mushy of the life. No skins-such as fruit skins or corn and such. No caffiene whatsoever. no coffee,tea,soda, carbonated drinks, nothing. Juice, gatorade and water is it. I drink pedialyte alot as well(yuck!).All I can eat without being sick is some pastas, and breads. Really, any carbs are fine. Unfortunately we're STILL in the debating stage where no ones exactly sure what I have, but upon personal research I'm leaning towards crohns. So there is no set diet regimen, im only going by how food makes me feel. I have been losing alot of weight, completely unprovoked, and because ive been getting sick alot lately(alot of stress since switching jobs, starting college and turmoil with the SO). I weighed 120 lbs a month and a half ago, and since starting everything i've gone down to 108.Oh well, sorry for rambling, just thought I'd share my diet.


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# Posted: 4 Dec 2004 05:40


hey spyder ramble away. I'm really sorry to hear what you have to deal with. Thats a lot for one person to shoulder hun. I understand choosing to avoid foods... but to "have" to avoid them... well that just sucks the... ?fun? right out of it. I wish i could offer more support... if you ever think i can help you... just give me a shout... my email's listed on here.

LOL mve i like your style tho... just roll with the punches and pretend you always knew... i try that sometimes... trying to make myself more credible but somehow i always seem to screw it up and i come out looking like a ninny on the other side anyway... i need lessons in that... zen thing lol... you said your european... where you from again?

hmm what else is interesting about diet...

red dye can cause children to have behavioral problems... im thinking most of your ADD diagnosed kids could be simply cured by taking juice outta their diet... lol... the drug companies would not stand for it


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# Posted: 4 Dec 2004 21:42


Josh explained the vegan thing pretty well. It means say goodbye to butter and therefore baked goods, anything with gelatin (marshmallows, gelcaps/soft-coated vitamins/pain relievers/supplements), etc.

I REALLY don't see the point in being vegan if you're going to have pets and feed them animal products (fishflakes, crickets, dogfood...). I really don't see the point in being vegan period, nor do I appreciate the altered definition of "animal" they use to describe what is and isn't okay. I don't see where they can collectively draw a line between animal-life and other life if they don't stick with the absolutes--which is impossible, in this case.

I'm not vegetarian, protein is my friend. Partially because I was one of those kids who ate too much junk and developed some insulin resistance. Damn me for that sweet tooth.

I don't think too many kids can attribute their ADD to food dyes, though. Technology weeded out the slow periods of time it took to do things, down to the simplest tasks, and I think our minds are adjusted to that. I know that's not worded perfectly--blame my ADD.


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# Posted: 5 Dec 2004 07:25


you said your european... where you from again?
I am dutch.


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# Posted: 5 Dec 2004 07:32


oooooooooomg not another dutch person!!!! *runs and hides under her rock*
i swear half the dutch in the whole world live in my city!!!
im sorry... im just kidding... thats pretty awesome tho... so... i catch a thing or two from some posts about peoples personal lives... and i am under the impression that you are on the move alot. is zis true?


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# Posted: 5 Dec 2004 20:59


I move around a bit. I am trying to set up in belgium.


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# Posted: 5 Dec 2004 22:30


There's only two things I hate in this world; people who are intolerant of other people's beliefs, and........THE DUTCH!

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# Posted: 6 Dec 2004 04:04


ha ha. yeah. My fiance' always says that to me.


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# Posted: 6 Dec 2004 05:06


haha the saying i grew up with... "wooden shoes, wooden head, wouldn listen..." and so far thru my short life... its been true! im just kidding around... we have a few neighbors now who are dutch... including the builder who built our house lives 3 doors down and all of his workmen including his landscapers were dutch lol... cheap and did a good job!


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# Posted: 6 Dec 2004 16:41


so why are you trying to move to Belgium?


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# Posted: 6 Dec 2004 16:52


My favorite country. Most of my friends are there. I love the lifestyle. I really suggest taking a trip there if you ever can. Not as many tourists as the rest of europe, and it is very beautiful. (my family is from a border town along netherlands and belgium)


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