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HerpNwny14
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 03:21


So im not sure if any1 has any experiences with either of these but chime in i you do.....i have 20l,40g breeder tank and a 60 gallon i was thinking about doing mudskippers in either the 20L or the 40g breeder,i know they are brackish anyone have any opinions or tips?will the 20L work with 3 mudskippers?
My main question is on the teacup rays ive read some people say as long as the tank is 4ft long by 2feet deep 2rays will be ok.....others say the smallest tank is a 90-125 for 2-3rays....any input? i can get teacup rays for $39 bux but i dont wanna hafta get rid of them in 2 years and def cant have another 125...any help?

iatenemoagain
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 05:48


where r u looking at the rays, we have talked before and live in the same area...


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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 06:18


Taron at Reptiles Etc. had some really wicked skippers about a month ago, you may see if he is getting more.

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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 16:05


No you can not ....so you'll have to send all the beautiful Russian women photos directly to me instead.


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bschwinn
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 16:11


What, where, photos?

HerpNwny14
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 17:45


Honey Hill pet center in clarence,ny can get them for me there teacup sting rays just wondering tank size ive heard alot of different opinions im probably definately going to do mudskippers just wondering everyones input if theyve had them before

iatenemoagain
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 18:53


Ok, well a few years back I almost got a set up for freshwater stingrays at Markheims... #1 there is no such thing as teacup stingrays. It is just a general name that the fish supplier companies sell them under. Some stay small, others get to be the size of a dinner plate and sometimes bigger. A 40 gallon breeder is the minimum size you can keep ONE in. If your 60 has a bigger FOOT PRINT, use that. #2 You need a very high quality filter that can handle sand being thrown up in the water (I dont mean puked) by the sting rays. #3 You need to cycle your tank for a month or two atleast with some other fish before you can add the sting ray, they are VERY sensitive to water quality. #4 Get a heater cover or better a in line heater because they will burn their delicate skin on a glass heater.

Check out monster fish keepers website/forum for more info


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HerpNwny14
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 19:53


thanks iate! yea i did read that tey can grow from 10''-24'' but alot of places said if your doing 2-3 you cant go any small than 125g and i found that hardto believe, my 60gallon is about 4feet long and almost 18inches deep,so i think 2 rays would be ok in that,i plan on spending about 4times what i payed for the rays on dual filters and heaters, i plan on doing a sand set up instead of gravel, im just going to set thetank up andletitrun for 3weeks or so before adding them,thanks again!

iatenemoagain
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 22:44


No problem. Just wanted to make sure! As for other fish in the tank... be careful! I have heard they work well with arowanas, but they get WAY to big for a 60 gallon. I have heard they do good with rainbow fish too


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# Posted: 11 Jan 2011 23:37


http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/parts-constructio n/43615-large-vivarium-construction.html


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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 00:17


mudskippers are pretty hardy and very active. Awesome missing link pet choice!


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HerpNwny14
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 23:46


ive seen alot of people do the brackish puffer fish with them,the one guy on youtube has the puffers and mudskippers eating out of his hand!

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# Posted: 15 Jan 2011 20:32 · Edited by: viktor


I have some experience with mudskippers. They are quite euryhaline, so they can take any salinity, and tolerate poor water conditions well. Not that you should keep them in dirty water, mind you. For long term health, you better add some salt to the water. I suggest a salinity of 1.005 to 1.015.

Some species are very aggressive towards conspecifics, and you will end up witnessing outright slaughter if you have more than one in the tank. This applies mainly to the larger African species (Boleophtalmus). I keep Periopthalmus novemradiatus, which have an Indo-Pacific distribution, stay small (about 4 inches), and work well in groups. Frank's Aquarium carries them on a regular basis.

They are very fun to watch, very active, and quite comical. They will eat just about anything. I feed mine hydei flies, small crickets, bean beetles, live blackworms, and just about any frozen food. They can be taught to eat worms from your hands.

In terms of care requirements, the most important thing is temperature. Keep the water at about 78 F and give them a sizeable land area. You can keep a group of 4-6 in a 20 gal long, but I would go for something a little bigger.

Breeding is extremely difficult, and as far as I know, has not been accomplished. This is because they breed in J-shaped burrows, with an air chamber, which is flooded by tides. So you would need a setup that simulates tides, which can be done, but is a lot of work.

If you have trouble finding them online, try your local Korean fish market, where you may find lives ones for sale. Apparently they taste pretty good.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

HerpNwny14
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2011 23:40


Viktor thanks so much for all the info! im waiting until after it warms up to order my mudskippers,its been in the negatives here in buffalo,ny.....i ended up scorin a 65gallon octagon tank for free, so im going to build a stand for it and use that.
Going to get a bunch of lava rock and build some type of waterfall.... once i start building it ill post pics

Sh0e
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2011 02:41


I've only heard of one or two cases where people bred them in captivity and even then it was by accident. I'm not sure if I believe it.


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