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Purple Pog
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 14:33


Guys, I'm frustrated. This week has been terrible, I'm beginnning to think that only idiots have exotic pets anymore....These are the pets I've dealt with this week....
1. Adult female iguana came in for an abcess. Owners haven't given her a light or heat source in 2 YEARS. She died 2 days later.
2. 5 yr old Sulcata tortoise comes in for tail abcess. The owner's cat regularly attacks him and bites him. The owner's words "uh, I didn't know it was hurting him, the cat only drew blood a couple times" Cat had bitten the tail and a HUGE abcess formed 2 weeks ago on the tail.
3. Not one but 2 juvenile bearded dragons have came in this week w/hypocalcemia, both are dead.
4.A hedgehog w/such a severe mite infestation, it chewed a hole in it's abdomen. Owner say "I thought those bugs were normal" We had to euthanize the hedgehog.

Now this is only the stupid exotic pet owners this week. That's not counting the dog who came in w/ no anus.... evidently it had fecal matter stuck to it's hind end so long that it rotted all the tissue around the anus. Or the cat that another vet clinic did surgery on and left the cat anesthetized on a heating pad and it's entire slab of skin on that side sloughed off. Or the idiot who brought in a puppy for parvo and it died overnight and he thinks it's our fault, even though we told him the chances were very high the puppy would die, not many puppies survive full blown parvo. If he had just got the puppy his shots, this wouldn't have happened.

Sorry about the ragging guys, I just need to here from some decent exotic pet owners to get my spirits up, cuz I'm seeing another beardie today and a cockatiel whose leg is broken.....


Stacy
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 14:41


My ex is very similiar to these people, she thinks that a dog that dies from not being fed has parvo, and a leopard gecko she doesn't feed dies because of shedding problems, I tried to help the leo but when she told me about the dog it was to ask me to put it down, it died before I got there. The leo was also past the point of no return. I do however have 4 happy and almost fat FBT's and 2 grey tree frogs the same way. Sorry about your week, but there are good pet owners out there.


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MegophryidaeMan
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 14:55


Sorry to hear about that mess Purple. It does seem that a lot of stupid people get ahold of exotic animals when they have no business doing so. I am sorry that you had to deal with all of them!

Remember that you are a hollow reed, and trouble blows through you like the wind. hehe jk


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Purple Pog
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 15:19


Thanks, I feel better already


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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 16:19


Well good thing there are people like you out there!(me too hehe)

I hate when people buy animals just because they are cool looking....and don't care how to take care of them.

How could someone think bugs were normal!


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Frog Style
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 16:21


by my understanding, if they think bugs are normal, I could only imagine what the inside of their home looks like.... =(

Yes, thank goodness there are still people out there like us who care more about our animals than people who say 'oh it's just X amount, I can buy another one'


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KittenClaw22
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 17:15


Sounds like you've had a tough week, stupid people are annoying.


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nuggular
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 17:19


Alot of these people are just so ignorant, they dont know any better. They treat everything in their life this way and they will always be f-ups. It's sad but it happens. Just keep knowing you are doing the right thing and you help the ones you can and the rest of them get put out of their missery. Just an FYI, but there is something you can do to report these people to make it illegal for them to own exotic pets because they cant properly care for them. Animal cruelty is animal cruelty, whether its a dog or a lizard.


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Dakhota
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 18:21


Unbelievable! People should need a license in order to own pets! Glad to hear you're there to help!


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Purple Pog
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 19:18


Animal cruelty charges won't even be investigated in Springfield if it's an exotic. Heck, they won't even show up if it's a dog or cat unless we can prove it's been without food, water and shelter for 7 days. Not 1 of those 3, but ALL THREE. And a tree in the back yard counts as shelter. So even if the dog is chained on a 2 ft leash w/no food/water for a month, if it's under a tree, they won't investigate. We are the 3rd largest city in MO, yet we only have 2 full time animal control investigators and NO ASPCA or animal cruelty investigators at all. So turning them in, does no good what so ever.....But I don't let it stop me They hear from me often regarding exotics. I'm sure they call me the crazy vet tech lady or something worse, but it's the principal of the matter. Somebody's gotta stand up for these guys.


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Dakhota
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2007 21:05 · Edited by: Dakhota


Wow! I'm glad it's not like that where I live. A few years ago, a couple I was showing houses too, lived next to a property with a young chow. It was like -30 degrees (celcius) outside and it was chained to the front step. My clients told me it was a regular occurance. The next day when I went to pick them up, there was the dog again. I called the police. They went to the house, made the owners provide proper shelter (insulated dog house), water, etc. Then regularly checked the house to make sure things were as they should be.

Most of our shopping malls' security also checks the parking lots in the summer for animals left in vehicles.


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froggz37
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2007 00:58


Aww sorry to hear about your week. That does suck. I work in a petstore now and I fully belive that some people need to take an iq test before they should be allowed to purchase anything. Or they at least need a good lesson in the differece in surviving and thriving.

Brett
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2007 01:45 · Edited by: Brett


Yah i know how ya guys feel one of my freinds u hear me my freind got a fbt yah it was doing good. then it started to bloat he thought ohh ill wait a bit see if it goes away few weeks later it died..

before the FBT died i told him to maybe take it to a vet. Ya he said nah

like really if your going to go and buy yourself a pet use the internet or books to research them it just isnt right to get a pet without researching on them first..


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ravencelt
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2007 15:01


I was reading on another frog forum and some kid posted that he wanted darts, and was going to buy the D. azureus because they were the cheapest, and if he messed up and they died it would be no big deal. Thankfully people were there to jump on him about it, but it's disheartening to know there are people out there that think that way. I hate all animal cruelty, but especially dogs...I just love dogs so much, and they are so unconditionally loyal to you, I can't imagine not caring for them properly.

I guess this isn't making you feel better Pog! I can tell you my babies are all healthy and happy, and that my new hatchling crested just ate its first little cricket. It hunted with enthusiasm and missed the first 5 times, but didn't give up until it finally caught it! It was so adorable to watch.


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froggy 60
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2007 20:34


FUNNY STUFF!


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Frog Style
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2007 21:05


How is this funny stuff? Abusing your animals is not funny........


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Brunok9
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2007 00:39 · Edited by: Brunok9


*sigh* It's not worth it, he probably just wants to start drama...

It's not funny. Here, we spend alot of time and money taking care of our animals. ALOT. Once you buy an animal, it can't find for itself. It is entirely dependant on you. They can't feed for themselves, there's no food.

If you think creatures dying from abuse is funny, I will not tone this down, SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOU!

I had a worse post than this, but I toned it down. Your not worth it, and you probably will not read this anyway...


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Carlton
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2007 01:43


Even supposedly intelligent people can abuse or neglect a pet without realizing it. Don't get me wrong, its not an excuse, but my father is like this and he has multiple engineering degrees from CalTech. He would never intentionally abuse any animal, but seems to have NO ability to sense when they have a problem. He also resents spending money on a doctor for himself let alone a vet. It drove me crazy when I was living at home. He decided one day out of the blue to put 2 elderly indoor budgies outdoors in the breeze (both died from pneumonia), he thought a dog with an abscessed anal gland just had a pimple and tried to lance it with a sterilized needle (I'm amazed the poor dog didn't take his hand off!), he thought an elderly terrier bloated, toxic and bleeding from advanced pyometra was just tired (I got her to the vet before she was beyond saving), and another terrier with the foulest breath and loose teeth didn't need that expensive dental work. He always felt terrible once the real problem was explained to him and did everything he should have done earlier, but it was still sickening.


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Ren
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2007 23:05


I am continually disheartened by the lack of research and cruel treatment that plauges the exotic pet industry. We do enough of a dis-service to our domesticated animals, but when we bring in wild species with highly specified care needs, it seems there is more room for often deadly errors. I worked at a zoo for five years and every day we recieved calls from exotic pet owners trying to dump their pets because they failed to research long term care needs. Everything from 250lb tortoises to tame, declawed bobcats were being offered up daily, and while the zoo sometimes accomodated smaller animals, they had to turn away most others, whose fates remain unknown. Exotics rescues are full to bursting, regular shelters are increasingly inundated with species they aren't equipped to care for, and the industry is absolutely BOOMING. I often really do feel that at least licensure should perhaps be required for many of the species available out there, if only to weed out those who won't make the commitment to research.
I think for those of us who care for cold blooded animals, the problem seems even worse, because even among the animal welfare community cold blooded animals are held in low regard. And atitudes within the hobby itself are often apathetic or disparaging. I am involved in fish rescue and the casual atitudes supposed enthusiasts have about illness and death in their stock is appalling. And the more I get into reptiles and amphibians, the more casual abuse and neglect I constantly observe.
Thankfully there are responsible hobbyists out there working to clean up the industry and educate the public. I think forums such as this one are vital to providing accurate, informed information on the husbandry of exotic species. People are finally learning that pet store employees and dated profit-based care guides are not a source of accurate information. The internet is bad in many ways, but I think that slowly it is coming to benefit captive animals. It is slow progress and there are often many steps backwords, but I truly do hope that one day we will see primarily widespread humane care for all animals, not just the cute and fuzzy ones.


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