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weinstro
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2005 01:59


Hi,

I'm new -- first post.

A friend gave my daughter a small tree frog 1" which is almost certainly a Pacific tree frog. I've set the frog up in a basic terrarium.

I have a black soil type substrate, recommended by the East Bay Vivarium, spaghnum moss, coconut shell hiding place, water dish, and a couple of fake plants. Tank is 12" cube (about 7.5 gallons). The cage is misted with a sprayer 2x daily. The environment offers decent hiding places.

- Frog eats really well. He never met a cricket he didn't like, dusted or not. How much do they normally eat? Is 4 per day too much?
- Is the cage too small?
- Do I need a mister? If yes, which one is recommended?
- He's extremely active at night. Hopping, jumping, smacking the glass sides, lots of spunk. He prefers to remain hidden during the day. Normal?
- When I open the cage top, even a couple of inches, he tries to jump out. Normal?
- He doesn't seem interested in climbing the plants, unless hunting a cricket. He also doesn't seem able to climb the glass sides. Normal?
- Are these frogs happiest (in captivity) in groups (i.e., 3-4), or should I think about freeing him?

Thanks and regards,

Rob

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# Posted: 9 Feb 2005 02:02


Oh, one other thing, he has started to "ribbet" at dusk and dawn. Loud, single note calls. I'm thinking he's probably lonely. He does not respond to .WAV files of Pacific tree frog chorus calls, though. Normal?

Thanks and regards,

Rob

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# Posted: 9 Feb 2005 02:14


a 7 gallon sounds small to me but it may be fine for a tiny frog. How big are the crickets you are feeding him? Unless they are small that is alot of crickets per day. I doubt you need a mister because from what I have seen they are more for dart frogs and such. He is active during the day and not at night because treefrogs are noctournal for the most part. I don't know why he can't climb the glass sides. He may not be responding to the sound files because to the frog, the time at which you are playing the sound might seem strange. If I play a sound file at some random point in the day my whites won't croak but during the night when he is in his waterfall, it will get him going for a long time.


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# Posted: 9 Feb 2005 02:16


Also get a humidity gage. Depending on how much water you are spraying out two sprayings a day may be too much.


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HARPY
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2005 05:55


I have a pair of Pacific Tree frogs too.. Love the little guys. As to your questions..

- How much do they normally eat? Is 4 per day too much?

I give both my guys dozen small crickets twice weekly. Dust them with Calcium once weekly..that makes the bugs nice and healthy for frog.

- Is the cage too small?

I have my pair in a 10 gal tank.. Lots of live plants for hiding as well as half wood logs. Make sure there is waterbowl at all times. My guys rarely sit in it, but it still needs to be available if they choose.

- Do I need a mister? If yes, which one is recommended?

No really, just get one of those plant sprayers to spray down tank once day, or ever other day, depending on your house temps.

Their temps should be about 70 degrees, give or take a few.

- He's extremely active at night. Hopping, jumping, smacking the glass sides, lots of spunk. He prefers to remain hidden during the day. Normal?

NORMAL... Very nocturnal frogs, all/most are wild caught and will never been completely happy in tank... But we can make it as nice as possible.

- When I open the cage top, even a couple of inches, he tries to jump out. Normal?

Again, NORMAL..

- He doesn't seem interested in climbing the plants, unless hunting a cricket. He also doesn't seem able to climb the glass sides. Normal?

Normal! Mine tend to just sit and hide most the time...unless a cricket passes by.

- Are these frogs happiest (in captivity) in groups (i.e., 3-4), or should I think about freeing him?

I found my guys (one was actually at my doorstep)..The other was a very young froglet wondering around at wrong time of year, and would have been frogcicle if not taken in. I have been told, that since i have had them for awhile, re-releasing them my be a health issue to wild population.

If you want to release him, contact a herp club to see where best location would be...and to make sure it is legal.

I have M/F pair and seem to get along great.. or at least tolerate each other. If you decide to keep more, you will need bigger tank.. No more then 2 per 10 gal space.. (my opinion)..

As for the call.. Sounds like a territorial call.. I was told that is their way of cussing at other males. The mating call is VERY LOUD and lots of calls.. You'd be surprised at how loud these little frogs can be.

Try calling back, see if he answers you. I get my male to talk to me most nights..

Hope this helps some. These are great little frogs.. But always the best pet for kid..not able to hold them and all. Lots of fun to watch though.

Billie




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Brian
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2005 06:35 · Edited by: Brian


Well I'll assume your near me since you asked the East Bay Vivarium.

I've found Pacific Treefrogs are a lot less arboreal then you'd think. The only real climbing I;ve seen them do is on reeds (?) and grasses around lake/pond edges.

Don't let your gaurd down though. I hard a very large female once push off a light top after she climbed the glass one night. She was huge though.

Well if your in CA it's illegal to release any captive animal without the permits. If someone was going to release it though, the place it was found is best.

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# Posted: 7 May 2008 23:00


I just found a pacific tree frog in my front yard not but 10 minutes ago. I really want to keep him. What should I do so that he says happy and healthy?

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# Posted: 9 May 2008 04:58


I just found a pacific tree frog in my front yard not but 10 minutes ago. I really want to keep him. What should I do so that he says happy and healthy?

Well if you live in CA as I do I personally would let him go where you found him, and get your setup done. And as i've noticed around here( Davis,CA) the frogs come back every night to the same spot to call from. So leave out some water and you could have visitors again once your ready to keep them.

You will feel ten times worse if it dies,than if you just never see it again.


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# Posted: 7 Aug 2008 11:59


Hi i have a question i wondered if anyone can help me with. I have a pacific tree forg, who until i moved house i would hear calling almost every day, is it normal for her to stop? Also she appears to be trying to make a sound but only seems to make a small popping sound as if air is escaping. Sould i be concerned?

Many thanks.

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# Posted: 27 Sep 2008 17:51


i have 4 pacific tree frog and one white libbed frog! i have no clue what to feed either of them!!! please help we beileve Peach isnt eating and she is our youngest! please! help!!!!!


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# Posted: 27 Sep 2008 19:29


i have no clue what to feed either of them!!!
Crickets.
You can feed them fruit flies also if the frogs are smaller. You should feed froglets everyday, older ones maybe every other day and feed adults three times a week.

I have a pacific tree forg, who until i moved house i would hear calling almost every day, is it normal for her to stop?

If your frog is calling then congratulations, you have a boy! When your frog was calling everyday it may have been breeding season. There's many reason why he could have stopped calling. I've never heard a small popping sound from those little guys, so I can't really give you any advice on it.


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# Posted: 8 Dec 2008 22:50


in our class we hane 6 frogs that are Pacific tree frogs and they are very tame. You can even train them to hop on your hands. We have had them for a while now and they love their home. Oh and we keep them in a 50 gallon tank and they really like the space. we put in a painters dish since it is slanted. we see one or two in there daily.


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# Posted: 8 Dec 2008 22:50


we hope you think that helped(it didn't)


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# Posted: 17 Apr 2009 17:59


I have 1 baby pft and one mom pft I found the baby on her back I put the baby in a littel cage with some crikets it hase ben too days and he still wont eat ow and he crocks alot at night


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# Posted: 17 Apr 2009 18:06


but i cep them both in a bigger cage I just put him in the little cage for feding


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# Posted: 17 Apr 2009 18:14 · Edited by: Albatross


that's kind of weird, pacific tree frogs don't carry or watch after their young. I'm surprised she hasn't eaten the little one, pacifics and most frogs will eat ones that are smaller.


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# Posted: 17 Apr 2009 18:36


I have 1 baby pft and one mom pft I found the baby on her back I put the baby in a littel cage with some crikets it hase ben too days and he still wont eat ow and he crocks alot at night

You probably found a pair of frogs in amplexus. I would suggest letting them go.


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# Posted: 18 Apr 2009 00:45 · Edited by: tyler pehl


I downt now what to feed a really little ptf I tried to feed him ckikets but he wont eat them


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# Posted: 18 Apr 2009 04:42


FROGLETS THIS TIME OF YEAR WOULD BE NO BIGGER THEN LADYBUGS.. AND DO NOT CROAK. Calling is done by ADULT MALES ONLY for the Pacific. the female is at least twice the size of the male..if not bigger. and frogs do NOT do the mother thing.. the male will HUG the female several times a day..sometimes over night even..

Doesn't even have to be same species.. I have peacock tree frog in love with my white's tree frog..

If you set them free.. Please put back where they were found.. The Chytrid Fungus threat is too great to risk.


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# Posted: 18 Apr 2009 04:43


JUST A THOUGHT, BUT SINCE THIS IS A VERY OLD THREAD, MAYBE A NEW THREAD SHOULD BE STARTED...


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# Posted: 2 Aug 2009 19:09


We have what we believe to be a little pacific tree frog, we raised it from a tadpole given to us by a teacher. Now it's a frog. we were feeding it tadpole food but now that its a full frog very tiny what do i feed it? it won't eat the frog food anymore.


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# Posted: 2 Aug 2009 19:23


You will have feed it fruit flys. Your best bet is to buy them online. Welcome to the frog. Next time you can make a new thread instead of replying on an older thread if you have some questions ;)


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# Posted: 2 Aug 2009 20:30


For all of you I would let them go if Wild Caught. Invest in a Captive Bred Frog instead.


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# Posted: 3 Aug 2009 02:11


For all of you I would let them go if Wild Caught

CHECK YOUR STATE LAWS FIRST! You have raised these to Frogs, they are now considered Captive Pets and MAY be ILLEGAL TO RELEASE! In Oregon, it is ILLEGAL to Release ANY Pacific Tree frog, no matter what reason.

ALSO, You could be releasing a Captive disease or spreading the dreaded Chytrid Fungus.. (Which is the reason behind most of these laws).

I work closely with State Fish and Game and see the damage good-hearted people cause simply by placing 1 frog in a new pond..


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HARPY
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# Posted: 3 Aug 2009 02:13


We have what we believe to be a little pacific tree frog, we raised it from a tadpole given to us by a teacher. Now it's a frog. we were feeding it tadpole food but now that its a full frog very tiny what do i feed it? it won't eat the frog food anymore.

Congrats on raising the tadpole. You can also get flightless fruit flies at petcos, and Petsmarts..Or IF YOU CAN FIND THEM, Pinhead crickets will work as well.

Good luck, and post pics when if you can.


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# Posted: 16 Nov 2009 23:04


I was just recently given a PTF as a pet, cute lil bugger. I know that in captivity if kept warm do fine , but I was wondering if any one knew if wild population hibernates or not ??

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# Posted: 17 Nov 2009 01:16


I was just recently given a PTF as a pet, cute lil bugger. I know that in captivity if kept warm do fine , but I was wondering if any one knew if wild population hibernates or not ??

you do not want to keep these frogs warmer then 75. I keep a pair of pacific tree frogs with just room temps with the tank near a window..here in oregon, there is very little threat from sun hitting tank(or anywhere else).

As for wild population, in Oregon, they are active Spring and fall..they completely disappear in hottest part of summer and coldest part of winter..although, I have seen males wandering around in December/January.


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# Posted: 17 Nov 2009 04:14


I live in Oregon, and keep mine in an unheated room. They slow down a bit in the winter, but don't seem to go into true hibernation. I have heard calling outside even when there is snow on the ground.

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# Posted: 17 Nov 2009 22:25


One of my males was calling ten minutes ago. I live in Idaho, and the PTF's live in the living room. It's warm here today; the living room temperature is 70 F. I have nothing on their cage to keep them any warmer than room temp. And they are still eating like pigs. Normally this room is 64 F.


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# Posted: 18 Nov 2009 01:16


your temps are fine.. and singing is good sign they are happy and have found a territory.

TONY - Where in Oregon are you? Not common to find another frog fan in this state..


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