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Charlie
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# Posted: 25 Apr 2004 07:27


bettas do fine in tanks with community fish, alone. You can't put two in together though. They will attack each others fins until one cant swim any more, and end up starving cause it cant get food.

Males and females can be placed together for mating purposes, but as soon as mating is complete, the male (if I remember who kills who right) will kill the mate. You would have to watch em 24 hours a day to stop that after they mate.


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# Posted: 25 Apr 2004 08:10


I think the question was can you put an ADF in with a Betta? In my experience, the ADF's may nip the male Betta's long fins, although they are unlikely to attack the females that have shorter fins and are quicker. I no longer put them together.

You can keep only one male Betta alone in any single divided section of a tank. They may survive all right in a community tank with just a few peaceful fish, but tend to get their fins nipped by anything more aggressive than a tetra. Female Bettas get along fine together, so you can keep several females in the same enclosure. Breeding takes some special care about pairing them up in the first place-- another subject, better followed on a Betta forum.

In any event, the answer is "don't keep ADF's and a male Betta together." It isn't the fact that the Betta will be aggressive toward the frog, (they are only aggressive with other male Bettas or the females after breeding), but the other way around. The frogs may nip the fatally attractive long flowing fins, not from aggression, but perhaps it just looks like a floating food source.


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# Posted: 25 Apr 2004 16:39


Yea, I agree that thats a betta forum thing. I was just rambling.


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lostriver
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# Posted: 26 Apr 2004 06:49 · Edited by: lostriver


So was I--rather rambling, because Bettas are fascinating to me. The discussion reminded me of a time when one of my female Bettas, doing all the right things herself, hot to trot, leaking eggs and flirting, got so frustrated with an unresponsive, sexually retarded male, she ripped him to pieces. They don't always act within the characteristics of their gender that you read about in books.


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# Posted: 3 May 2004 06:46


I have an African drawf frog and over the last week his stomach is full of air and he has red spot on the bottom of it, all he does all day is float at the top of the tank. Is he sick????
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# Posted: 3 May 2004 20:48


can you mix water frogs and gold fish in a fish tank?




Charlie
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# Posted: 4 May 2004 21:32


I'm not even gonna start on this one.


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lostriver
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# Posted: 10 May 2004 02:55


To explain our non-response, we need to know to whom we are responding. There are a lot of anonymous posts that get repetitive and annoying, because we just answered the same thing to an "anonymous" yesterday and it took up a whole thread. Join up, choose a name and you'll get more attention and we'll be able to remember and follow your problems better.


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# Posted: 22 May 2004 23:55



I have just got 2 ADF's and they live in their own tank and seem to be happy. They seem to eat the same fish flakes that I feed to my tetra's in another tank. is there any reason to switch to bloodworms if they are eating the flakes ?
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# Posted: 23 May 2004 22:38 · Edited by: Moderator


you can't put them in a 10 gall because of the waste they produce - you must've seen the huge amount of amonia in your tanks if you have so many critters in such small enclosures - really it isnt nice

yes there is a reason to shwitch - it isnt natural for them - it doesnt contain the bits and bobs that their diet needs!
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# Posted: 26 May 2004 06:18 · Edited by: Moderator


do frogs make noise when there mating
i notice this weeknd strange noise coming from my tank. sounds kinda squeaky i notice i t around 8:30 to 9:00 to 9:30..... please help me its driving me baty not knowing
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2004 05:10


you can put a afd with one betta only one because bettas will fight to the death



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# Posted: 17 Jun 2004 05:11 · Edited by: Moderator


ok i have two afd i know of of them is a female. The other I'm not to sure i think it a male because the tail is almost gone.
would that make it a male


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# Posted: 17 Jun 2004 15:12


I think that plecos grow to their environment. Does anyone know if this is true? I have had 2 ADF's and a pleco in a 2.5 gallon tank for about 2 years. They all do fine together and the pleco has grown to a size of about 4 inches and has now stopped growing. The frogs even sometimes lay on top of the pleco!

I did have a larger 5 gallon tank which had tetras in it also but the ADF's quickly ate them all. They also ate a smaller algae eating fish that I had, not sure which type it was.

Also, I only feed mine bloodworms or krill once a week and they have been doing fine for 2 years.

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# Posted: 18 Jun 2004 23:11


i dont think you havd a fd frog cause there not agrasive plus my 2 afd are with tetras and they dont snap at them.
Charlie
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2004 23:51


1 just because your frogs behave one way is not the written in stone behavior of all frogs. They all have different personalities.

Some Acf/adf's will eat anything that fits in thier mouth(s). Other's will only eat known food sources. It all depends on your frog.


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# Posted: 20 Jun 2004 06:59


My son's african dwarf grogs have been laying eggs again. The first batch they ate but I scooped out the second batch and some have hatched into tadpoles. I have them in a small container but do not know how to feed and care for them. Also, how do I transfer them out of the parents tank without the eggs sticking to everything?
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# Posted: 20 Jun 2004 12:16


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# Posted: 24 Jun 2004 06:21 · Edited by: polliwogsoonfrog


After reading the above posts, the only thing I could add is I feel adding the ghost shrimp (the original poster mentioned) is not such a good idea. I don't have any dwarves at the time, but have kept them in the past. They don't appreciate the inquisitive nature of the shrimp crawling over them...I don't know if it tickles the frogs or actually hurts them, but they flinch and/or end up swimming away anytime one of them touches the frogs.

Polliwog

P.S. Link to good dwarf site : http://www.pipidae.net/


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Charlie
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# Posted: 24 Jun 2004 07:06


they do that when other things touch them sometimes too.


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polliwogsoonfrog
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2004 20:23


You could. But it would annoy the fish
as well as the frog. And frogs are predators, so make take a shot at betts, whether too big or not, may end up with tail stuffed in frog's mouth... Why not try seperate tanks?

Polliwog


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lostriver
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2004 20:22


In my experience, African dwarf frogs will often nip the fins of Bettas, perhaps mistaking them for blood worms or other food. They get along all right with smaller fish such as tetras that have less attractive fins and are quick enough to stay out of the way.


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# Posted: 27 Jun 2004 20:39 · Edited by: polliwogsoonfrog


I was reading an interesting bit on the pipidae.net site other day Anonoymus...(This is to 'A' on frist page, with adf's no back legs)
A couple was having a hard time keeping fish from eating their adf's
food. So she decided to get a glass jar, place the frog's food in it, and then submerge in tank on it's side. The fish don't figure out, frogs do. They climb right in.
The significance of this to you?
Try aligning tank-cleaning time with
dinner. Do as she had done. When all froggies in jar, gently lift out, (removing some water so they don't try to get out.) You might want to try some chopped live red earthworms with this trick, as it is more enticing and they don''t float. Try a bait shop. Besides, all that freeze-dried stuff gets boring to them and they are carnivores to start with, give them red-meat!
NOW, siphon the tank bottom and everyone gets to keep their legs!

Polliwog


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Anonymous


# Posted: 8 Jul 2004 01:52 · Edited by: Moderator


We had one ADF die this week and another is not eating -- looking very lethargic. What can we feed him?

We do not have any flies or crickets. Can you suggest anything else that our ADF will eat?

Thanks!
Charlie
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2004 03:23


reptomin, blodworms, kryll, brine shrimp, guppies, crickets, fish flakes, etc.


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# Posted: 29 Jul 2004 07:53


hi i have just bought an adf im a begginer and didnt know what the heck i was doing but the frog has survived a week and a half not to mention i just added the gravel and rocks , yesterday its still alive and swimming around and it loves froven blood worms should i thaw them out first? also i want get some fish to i have a 5 gal tank , what kind of fish should i get? dont worry i read up on them now though i jus cant find these answers i want them from experienced frog owners
Charlie
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2004 13:52


Doesnt hurt to thaw the bloodworms. I just drop a cube in a cup with enough hot water in it to coer the cube, and swish around a few times; and pour it right in.


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lostriver
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# Posted: 31 Jul 2004 05:31


If you don't thaw them first, the frozen blood worms may freeze the frogs' guts. While we may be able to eat icecream without freezing our stomachs, whether it is a hot day or not, because we are warm-blooded mammals and can make our own heat, a frog cannot do this. Frogs have no internal thermo-regulators. They take on the temperature of their environments, totally at the mercy of the temperature around them. If you feed a frog a frozen product, the frog has no way of adjusting and changing this temperature as it hits its gut. Frogs cannot make their own heat, so can't overcome cold.


Lee
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# Posted: 1 Aug 2004 17:38


I am very glad I read this thread, as I had read elsewhere that ADFs and ghost shrimp make good tank mates for bettas.

From the sounds of it, the shrimp would make the frog miserable and the frog would make the betta miserable.

Much better to find out by reading about it than the hard way. Thanks!

Charlie
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# Posted: 1 Aug 2004 19:58


Pretty much.

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