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Sandy_Bear
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2010 13:25


Is it possible to make your own "home made" cricket water gel instead of buying it?
Could i use unflavoured jello/gelatin and feed that to my feeders? Is there anything i should add to it to help keep its shape at room temperature? (most jelly powders will turn back into a liquid at room temperature)

ILoveGreen
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2010 13:28


why not just use some sort of greens....water and food in one.


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Sandy_Bear
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2010 14:23


i also use fruits & carrots to feed to my feeders, i was just looking for a way to make the cricket water gel. A small pot of that stuff cost around 6-10$, the gelatin powder cost about 2$ and i would end up with a lot more of it.
I wanted to be able to make my own and add vitamin & mineral powders to it, and other goodies like that.
Its mostly for variety, and i like to know what my feeders are eating. Healthy nutritious feeders make for a happy healthy frog.

froggz37
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2010 15:18


The water crystals are a polymer, and I dont think the gelatin would compare.

I'm sure if you looked at some gardening/hydroponics stores it would be alot cheaper for alot more. When split into small portions for pet supplies they tend to get pricey. Alot of craft stores sell them as well.

ILoveGreen
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2010 20:10


is it really good for your frog to eat a cricket full of gel? I just wonder why you even want to use that stuff...why not just use veggy/fruit? I add vit powder on the crickets food.


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Sandy_Bear
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2010 22:28


The cricket gel is really convenient when i have to work lots of over time. It doesn't go bad like the fresh fruits & veggies do. So adding something like the cricket gel is good, if i don't get a chance to check on my bug bins for 3 or 4 days. I don't like finding mould in my bug breeding containers. It's not something that i plan to use all the time. My roaches go though any fruits and veggies real quick, but some of my other feeders like mealworms & superworms don't.

However i've been reading the ingredients on the cricket gel container i have and it's a bit concerning. I currently have the "Fluker's Cricket Quencher, Calcium Fortified". Ingredient list on bottle:
Water, Polyacrylamide copolymer, calcium, F&D Yellow #5.

The second ingredient really concerns me, because it is so vague - it's a really general term for what can be any number of chemicals. At least i know that gelatin has been food approved and eaten by people & animals for years. Gelatin is made from the bones, skin & tendons of animals.

I have 2 ingredients in my pantry that i think will make good substitues for the Crix water gel, the first was the gelatin, the other is Agar-Agar flakes (a type of seaweed).

froggz37
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2010 23:26


is it really good for your frog to eat a cricket full of gel? I just wonder why you even want to use that stuff...why not just use veggy/fruit? I add vit powder on the crickets food.


The crickets dont eat the gel Lisa. They draw the moisture off of it. It is the same concept as "Cricket water pillows" just not in a cloth packet. The very same water cubes that are used at petco. The crickets arent eating them, the cubes shrink with dehyration. Just veggies and fruit do not work to keep the humidity at the right level for many roach species, yet the water polymer cubes do.


Polyacrylamide copolymer is the cube itself, the polymer that absorbs water. It also releases the water and allows for evaporation and dehydration of the cube.

Polymer cubes have been used in the feeder industry for years.

kerokero
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2010 02:09


i don't let my crickets go anywhere NEAR any of the "water crystals" unless they are in that little pillow. Having seen pics from necropsy of what some of that gel ingested did to a couple of lizards... OMG When dry, small particals can cling to the cricket, and when ingested it can draw moisture from the animal... and the result is a horrifying version of giving rice to birds!

If you read the labels, a lot of the cricket diets and speciality deal that "make your life easier" really aren't actually good! Very scary.

I don't take care of my crickets every day, they go every other day and then (sometimes long) weekends... what they get over these periods are veggies like sweet potatoes and dark leafy romaine lettuce, with access to a dry food (ground high quality organic dog and cat foods - no grain stuff that is better than the food i eat!) and water (cricket waterer) for the larger crickets. Itty bitty crickets can't eat the hard foods and drown on water droplets, so they just get the veggies. Fruits and some veggies with more water will get nasty, but these two veggies tend to dry out before that so I don't have too many nasty moldy issues.


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