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JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:15


Meet my frogs

My Kassina maculata (very shy, hard to get nice pics of them)




This time I thought this one was sick with dropsy. Turned out to be just fat.


And their current terrarium


My Fire bellies






and their current aqua-terrarium


and finally, my Scaphiophryne marmorata





and their terrarium



mike12348
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:18


Those are some awesome frogs/tanks!Good job and welcome to the frog!


1.1.1 White tree frog
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon
0.1.0 Emperor scorpion
0.0.1 G.pulchripes
0.0.1 B.albopilosum
MegophryidaeMan
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:21


I am very impressed with your tank designs! Great job. I look forward to seeing more pics!


Courtney8526
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:22


Great pictures! Your setups look great!
How did you divide the land and water area on you firebelly tank?


2 Azureus, 4 Firebelly Toads, 1 Black Spined Toad, & 2 Leucomelas
5 dogs (Rat terriers, mixes, pit), 2 cats, 1 parrotlet & 1 lovebird, 2 ferrets, 5 fish tanks
6 pygmy goats, 13 rabbits
Angela Poleto
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:25


Very impressive! And I too would like to see more. Are these a few of many or do you just have a few frogs. They are very well done!


1 Pickerel Frog
1 Albino Pacman
4 Whites Tree Frogs
1 Tomato Frog
1 Megophrys Nasuta
3 American Toads
1 Bearded Dragon
2 Mellers Chameleons
1 Red Eared Slider
3 poison darts(colbolts)
JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:44 · Edited by: JoaoAvo


Nice to see so many comments right away
Very impressive! And I too would like to see more. Are these a few of many or do you just have a few frogs.

I just have these. I became a frog keeper last Febuary, and I'm still a student (MSc) and live with my parents. So I'm not allowed to have as many tanks as I'd like. And besides I also have 2 mid-sized aquariums, which is a lot of work for the little free time I have.

How did you divide the land and water area on you firebelly tank?

I used 2 Rubbermaid like boxes and fixed them with polyurethane foam (sorry but I don't know what you call it). Otherwise they'd float around. In some previous setups I tried to divide land and water areas with glass/stones and silicone, but the isolation always ended up failling. So this time I wanted to try some isolated boxes and it worked fine.

I don't have much more fotos right now, I'll just leave you with some old setups I had

Previous kassina maculata terrarium



and my first aquaterrarium

This one was planned out for fire bellies but I ended up buying the kassinas first

Sheri
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:47


Wow, I think your tanks are the best I have ever seen. Absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing these!


**SHERI**
wickerstone
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:49


Beautiful tanks. I think what makes this hobby neat is the fact that we can successfully copy nature and bring it into the home!!! Again....great job and keep sending us pics. You've inspired me! Thanks!


too many frogs to list in the allowed space
mike12348
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 00:55


I would love to have one of your tanks! I wish I could make them like that!


1.1.1 White tree frog
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon
0.1.0 Emperor scorpion
0.0.1 G.pulchripes
0.0.1 B.albopilosum
Courtney8526
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 01:21


Oh, I see. Did you attach rocks to the outside of the container with silicone? That's what it looks like anyway. I think I might try this method to make an island for my fire bellies. Thanks for your help and thanks for showing your great pictures. They are very inspiring!


2 Azureus, 4 Firebelly Toads, 1 Black Spined Toad, & 2 Leucomelas
5 dogs (Rat terriers, mixes, pit), 2 cats, 1 parrotlet & 1 lovebird, 2 ferrets, 5 fish tanks
6 pygmy goats, 13 rabbits
JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 01:36 · Edited by: JoaoAvo


Oh, I see. Did you attach rocks to the outside of the container with silicone? That's what it looks like anyway

Not rocks. I used a sort of polystyrene chips used to fill in boxes in shipments and stuff. I glued and painted them with brown silicone. However, if you care for my advice, use polyurethane foam instead. It'll look much more natural and will be less worky too. That's what i used in the previous kassina terrarium

thank you all for the comments

For the ones interested in setting terrariums like that, they're not that hard to build. Using polyurethane foam and choosing the right plants are the key elements for the natural looks. Wasting a weekend or so with the setup is probably enough.
There's one bad thing though. The cleaning is much harder, that's why I keep hardy species. That way i only change the substrate once a month and change the water every 2 days (a week in the fire bellies')

eos
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 03:05


Beautiful tanks (old and new) and great pics of some awesome frogs!


JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 03:22


By the way, I've been around the forum and there are so many frogs I'd like to have. Guess that Agalychnis callydras and WTF are on top of my wishlist, but I can't provide them a large enough tank

However I have a 16"x10"12" tank (40x25x30 cm) and I was thinking about setting up a terrarium for 1 Hyperolius species (most likely argus, the most common here in Portugal)

How many do you think I can keep in there?

MissMeshow
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# Posted: 27 Jan 2009 16:12 · Edited by: MissMeshow


Wow. I dig that last picture of the fire belly setup. I've been wracking my brain trying to decide how I want mine when I do it.

Actually now that I think of it, Maybe the one with the rubbermaids will be better for me.....UGH!


0.1.1 WTF (Pistachio, Titus RIP)
1.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Suri, Gary)
0.0.2 FBT (Geppetto, Scoochie)
1.0.0 kid (Zach)
Leptopelis
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# Posted: 29 Jan 2009 07:49


The vivs are looking really nice.
Is it ficus pumila you have to the left in the first viv?


Geckos, dartfrogs and other frogs.
FrogMomx7
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2009 01:21


You are incredible! I have three fire bellies and I'm pretty sure they would think they had gone to frog heaven if they had that tank. Please give us step by step for the boxes. I can't wait to try this! BTW - what size tank is that? (Oh, and your frogs are beautiful!!)


0.2.0 African Dwarf Frogs
1.0.0 Golden Tree Frog
0.0.1 Green Tree Frog
0.1.0 Clown Tree Frog
0.0.2 Kassina Frogs
0.0.1 Starry Night Reed Frog
0.1.0 Peacock Day Gecko
0.0.4 D. Auratas Dart Frogs
0.0.2 Leucomela Dart Frogs
2.2.0 Williamsi Dwarf Ge
Cnfessions
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2009 01:29


omg, it is nice to see another k. maculata owner!
I see at least one of them is a male, are all of them?
I have been searching lately for a female


2.0.0 Kassina Maculata
HylaCinerea
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2009 02:02


Those are some nice setups. I could just imagine some aquatic frogs swimming around in the aquaterrarium.

frogal
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2009 05:37


I LOVE THE FIRST TERRARIUM!!! What size is that tank? Would that be an okay set up for WTF? How did you get the plants to stick to the back wall? I have so many questions!!! I am not sure if I have the skills to make something like that. Details! Details!

Is that poly foam harmful to the frogs?

Albatross
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2009 05:41


Your terrariums are AWESOME!!

JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2009 14:38


Thank you all for the comments

Is it ficus pumila you have to the left in the first viv?

That's right, not only on the left, i put it everywhere, hoping that it'll cover the entire wall

Please give us step by step for the boxes. I can't wait to try this! BTW - what size tank is that?

The tank is 24"x16"x16" (60x40x40 cm). As for the boxes, I started by covering them with a layer of brown silicone. Then, before it dried out I sticked the foam chips and covered them with another silicone layer. It's a very messy, worky technique that I don't recomend. Using isolation foam works much better, it'll look more natural and it's much easier do to.
The main problem using boxes as land areas, is that they float a lot, even with rock inside. I had to use isolation foam under and around them (on the glass side) so they'd stay put.

I see at least one of them is a male, are all of them?
I have been searching lately for a female


Actually they're both females, no calling sack on either of them. Later i'l try to get them a male and try breeding, but right now my main objective is to bree Scaphiophryne marmorata, cause they have a very short lifespan (3 years or so)

I LOVE THE FIRST TERRARIUM!!! What size is that tank? Would that be an okay set up for WTF? How did you get the plants to stick to the back wall? I have so many questions!!! I am not sure if I have the skills to make something like that. Details! Details!
Is that poly foam harmful to the frogs?


The tank is a 16"16"28" (40x40x70 cm). I don't know about WTF's, I've seen them being kept in smaller tanks. I think its enough for one, but let someone who knows better tell you. But the setup was specially tought for tree frogs so I guess it's ok.
When I put the isolation foam on the tank, I let it inflate for a couple of minutes and then put some pots on it. Later I had to carve some extra holes to add more plants. Then I just put some eco-earth or sphagnum moss in the pots, depending on the plants I put there (moss for bromeliads, and earth for the fern and ficus)
The foam is completely safe, you just have to choose carefully how to "paint" it


Hope I answered all the questions.

Fell free to ask if any doubt remains

frogal
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2009 18:13


Thank you for answering all of my questions!! I know that there would need to be a few differences for the WTF as apparently moss is a big no no.

Just a few more quick questions!!!
IS that insolation foam hard to remove if you decide you don't like it or you did a "bad job" installing it?

What do you mean "paint" the insolation foam?

And finally, how thick did you make the foam backing? Just enough to carve 4" pots into it? Or how big are your pots? Are they just the plastic kind? Is your driftwood that sticks out of the background secure?

I really like how the plants are off of the ground so that there is more room for the frogs. Is that a waterfall in your tank as well? Awesome. Do the tree frogs actually use it or is it just for show?

Do you use special plant lighting for your tank or just day glo bulbs for reptiles and amphibians?

(I apologize for all of the questions, I just don't trust myself to figure it out on my own).

JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2009 20:17


IS that insolation foam hard to remove if you decide you don't like it or you did a "bad job" installing it?

What do you mean "paint" the insolation foam?

And finally, how thick did you make the foam backing? Just enough to carve 4" pots into it? Or how big are your pots? Are they just the plastic kind? Is your driftwood that sticks out of the background secure?

I really like how the plants are off of the ground so that there is more room for the frogs. Is that a waterfall in your tank as well? Awesome. Do the tree frogs actually use it or is it just for show?

Do you use special plant lighting for your tank or just day glo bulbs for reptiles and amphibians?

(I apologize for all of the questions, I just don't trust myself to figure it out on my own).


No problem

I never tried to remove the foam but I don't think it's very hard to remove from glass. With a long enough blade (like a kitchen knife) as a lever I think it's doable. If you try cutting it in pieces it'll be messy. It's better to take it out as a whole.

By paint I mean changing it'r color somehow so it looks more natural than that whitish yellow. I used the eco-earth technique, by adding a layer of brown addesive silicone and pasting the earth on it before it dried out. On the "previous kasssina terrarium" I darkened it with furnishure polish (or varnish dunno the right word). Since it's toxic, I used a 2nd layer of acrylic varnish that gets water insoluble when dry.
There's also a lot of epoxy paints used in aquariums and such, but I never used them.

The foam isn't that thick. It's thicker on the top, maybe 2.5". I used small pots, like the ones where aquatic plants come when you buy them. The driftwood is very secure, I turned the wall upside down and it didn't move a bit. The waterfall is for show off lol. Maybe the frogs use it at night but I don't see it. The bulbs are the ones used for homelighting (I guess that in the US people don't use ceiling lamps much). Since my kassinas are nocturnal I don't need UV lighting or anything.

FrogMomx7
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# Posted: 31 Jan 2009 21:30


I'm sorry, but I do have another question too! Do you have a tank filter in that FBT set up? Thanks!


0.2.0 African Dwarf Frogs
1.0.0 Golden Tree Frog
0.0.1 Green Tree Frog
0.1.0 Clown Tree Frog
0.0.2 Kassina Frogs
0.0.1 Starry Night Reed Frog
0.1.0 Peacock Day Gecko
0.0.4 D. Auratas Dart Frogs
0.0.2 Leucomela Dart Frogs
2.2.0 Williamsi Dwarf Ge
JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 1 Feb 2009 03:25


I do have one installed but I rarely turn it on. Since I change all of the water weekly, it doesn't get much dirty. Besides I've seen that the toads spend a lot more time in the water when the filter's off, so I take that they like slow stagnant waters.

MonkeyFrogMan28
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2009 16:51


your last picture of the tank that was planned out for your fire bellies would have been a great tank for marbled newts or crested newts


too much too handle
JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 10:51


I was never much interested in newts but those you mencioned are pretty cool, specially the crested newt.

Maybe one day I'll think about keeping them.

jesse kooiman
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# Posted: 15 Mar 2011 04:38


Does this guy still lurk on here? These tanks are spectacular! JVK


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