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JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2009 03:34


Hi there.

For the past 10 days or so, I noticed that my 2 kassina maculata have not been eating. I usually fed them 6-8 crickets every 3 days (left them walking around the terrarium) and that worked fine for the past year. Ocasionally I'd feed them mealworms, slugs, moths, but lately (winter) it's crickets mostly.

Is it possible that they won't eat because they are "fed up" with crickets? An hour ago I'd try to feed them a mealworm by hand and they didn't eat it either (although I always kept them very shy minimizing contact with them, so maybe they refused the mealworms for that reason)

Or is it possible that the setup isn't adequate, making them unhappy, hence the anorexia?
Here's a photo.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/Joaoavo/Ima ge4-5.jpg

This week I kept them in a temporary 16"x10"12" terrarium covered with moss, where I put 9 crickets hoping that in 2 or 3 days they'd be gone. Unfortunately, 4 nights later, I counted at least 6 crickets. The other 3 could have been eaten, although, escaping seems a better bet.

This week I'll buy some grasshoppers and Dubia roaches hoping that they'll do the trick.

Meanwhile, if you can give me any hints about what to do or what's causing this, I'd be thankful

vivariman
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2009 04:17


The setup seems very adequate, but can we know the temperatures and humidity? They might be causing the problem.

JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2009 13:41 · Edited by: JoaoAvo


The minimal temp. is about 72 and maximal is about 80

I don't measure the humidity, but from my experience is between 80 and 90%

JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2009 10:11


So, the dubia roaches seemed to do the trick, since I put some there and didn't find any the last time I cleaned the tank.
However, crix walk around the tank for a very long time.

Is it possible that I have too many hiding spots that help crix get away?
Could this be the main reason why my kassinas won't eat them?

Maybe i should remove some stuff from the bottom it was more open?

Cheryl Andrews
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2009 13:14


Its possible that the crix are hiding, but its also bossible that they just aren't interested for some reason or another. If they are eating the roaches then that is great.

JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 28 Feb 2009 00:46


I'm getting a little desperate.
They don't eat for at least a week now. Yesterday instead of releasing the crix as I usually do, I put them in a sort of dish less than 2 inches deep, so that the frog could go inside. This way, crix wouldn't hide from the frogs and could be eaten. Or so I thought. But this morning none of them was eaten.
I just don't know if the frogs couldn't get to the crix, they aren't interested, or some other reason.

What do you think I should do? I'm thinking about setting up a different vivarium or changing the bottom level of this one, but I'm not sure it'll work...

moothefrog
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# Posted: 28 Feb 2009 02:40


I doubt it is your setup. How old are the frogs?


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JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 28 Feb 2009 12:16


I doubt it is your setup. How old are the frogs?


I have them for about a year.

JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2009 22:18


Sorry to bring this up.
I still didn't see them eating but a few days ago I saw them shedding. That's a good sign right?

Should I still be worried?
They're thin, but probably wouldn't be fatter in the wild I guess. Maybe it's a healthy thin

moothefrog
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2009 22:39


Do you have any pics?


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Kassina maculata
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2009 22:46



I'm getting a little desperate.
They don't eat for at least a week now. Yesterday instead of releasing the crix as I usually do, I put them in a sort of dish less than 2 inches deep, so that the frog could go inside. This way, crix wouldn't hide from the frogs and could be eaten. Or so I thought. But this morning none of them was eaten.
I just don't know if the frogs couldn't get to the crix, they aren't interested, or some other reason.

What do you think I should do? I'm thinking about setting up a different vivarium or changing the bottom level of this one, but I'm not sure it'll work...


Try the roaches again. I seem to remember hearing somewhere that frogs can get bored with the same food.


-Kassina maculata
JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2009 15:51


I meant to take some pics this week but I only saw them in holes and I didn't want to disturb them.
I can say that they're fatter than this one

http://www.amphibiainfo.com/gallery/anura/hyperoli idae/kassina/maculata/kassina_maculata_ebinuma.jpg

and thinner than this one

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:T5icQhjecC26KM :http://www.easternarc.org/posters/AmphPost/AmphPo st/18.jpg


Roaches aren't the solution either cause I've seen some walking around the viv a few times.

Yesterday I saw one of them shedding again.

JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2009 16:02


Here's a pic of one of them

It's a little pale, but that's because the lights were out for a long time. Usually they're much darker than that

What do you think? Does it look healthy?



ScurvyGoat
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2009 16:10


I think it looks gorgeous.

Good luck with them! I wish I could help. =[ You can't see the skeletal structures so I think that's a good sign...



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Janice
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2009 22:53


Compared with mine, it looks healthy and the vet said mine were healthy and a good weight. Mine are now the same weight class as yours though when I got them three months ago, they were skinnier than the one in the first frog picture link. Mine stopped eating for about ten days last month but then they started eating again when I got some crickets that were larger than what I usually get. When I first got them, 1/4" were just fine. Now that they are bigger, it's like they don't see them or regard them as food anymore. The 1/2" to 3/4" crickets are just fine and they gobble them up fast. What size crickets are you feeding them and how big are they? Could they have outgrown their crickets? Also and more importantly, have your frogs lost any weight and how much? Or if you don't weigh them, have they gotten thinner and by how much?


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cherisse
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2009 22:55


these frogs seem tobe growing in popularity...

your frog looks good by the way!




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JoaoAvo
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2009 23:46


I don't weigh them but I could easily see that they got thinner since I put them in this viv. However, I think that they've been gaining weight for the past weeks.

Here are some pics of the other one. This one I had to disturb, but it's for a good reason. I think they're fine now.





I give them full size crickets (always have) and I don't see them crawling around as often as I did.
Some time ago, they spent so much time uneaten that they actually bred in the viv. My tender plants were quite affected by this.

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