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Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 19 May 2010 20:54


Does anyone know where to find Sping Peeper tads in ponds? A wetland I know has had huge numbers of calling peepers, and I haev been told they do not group together as toad tads do. The water is about 3 feet deep, with lots of cattails (and grasses in some places, and shrubs around the edges mostly).


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# Posted: 19 May 2010 23:24


shallow edges where the water has plants in it .... good luck


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# Posted: 20 May 2010 00:44


With catching tads in the wild, you'll have to take a chance that the tads might be one of any local frogs or toads. You might get a peeper, and you might get a Green TF or a Gray TF or a toad. Its a lot like a suprise if you can't really tell what you're scooping up.

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# Posted: 20 May 2010 00:53


i got tons of peeper tads right now there almost a tan/pinkish color with black ridges on there tail,my peepers stopped calling in there tank recently,everynight since april theyve been going nuts

Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 20 May 2010 22:13


Hey, HerpNwny14, how many peeper breeders do you have in your tank? Where do you live? I have one one male that I caught earlier this season - he has not called since I caught him that I have noticed.


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# Posted: 22 May 2010 02:57


I've got 3 females and 5 males,im not sure which mated with which but i have the in a 55 gallon that is mostly water from march-late may than i change the tank up,all i did was put a waterfall filter in and it triggered there breeding more,my peepers are wild caught so instinct kicked in around the last week of march and they started peepin,3 weeks later i had eggs,ive got probably 200 tads right now ill release most in my pond and hopefully have peepers here all next summer,its tough cuz the bulls love to eat them

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# Posted: 23 May 2010 17:26


nature happens sometimes, lol. personally i like the bulls better =p


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Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 23 May 2010 17:39


HerpNwny,

You have bulls and peepers together? Not such a great idea, I would think.

Where do you live? I am looking for spring peeper tads.... I don't suppose somewhere near Michigan.....

Any pics of hte way your tank is set up? I'd like to see the two ways the tank is set up.


ILoveGreen
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# Posted: 23 May 2010 19:51 · Edited by: ILoveGreen


I think he ment he has Bullfrogs in the same pond as the peepers.

I live in central IL. I got a couple black tiny tads but I can't say for sure what they are. Could be toads, cricket frogs, Peepers, or chorus frogs.


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HerpNwny14
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# Posted: 25 May 2010 01:57


yes i have a pond i made about 3 years ago......30feet by 50feet...maybe bigger,we just had my uncle come over with afew bobcats n we went nuts lol...neways the bulls just showed up about a year ago,its stocked w mostly sunnys and crappy,i put my peepers tads in there hopefully theyll make it,greens n wood frogs,american toads also.....trying to get some chorus n gray tads to stock the pond too,no luck yet tho

HerpNwny14
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# Posted: 25 May 2010 01:58


if u wanted peeper tads i can send you sum just gotta pay for shipping

Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 25 May 2010 14:39


So.... where do you live, HerpNwny14? Not sure I want peeper tads yet, but I don't think I've seen bulls in the wild, but i have seen plenty of greens. Many mistake greens for bulls.

I volunteer at John Ball Zoo in Grand Rapids, and we have Bullfrogs there. My first time ever seeing them was there.


Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2010 17:05


I FINALLY caught what I am pretty sure are Spring Peeper tads. Found a pond where I heard quite a bit of peeping. Since I had already did som sweeps near the edges of ponds like that, I figured they must be near the center or deepest part. And, since the water level receeded quite a bit since then, they must be concentrated. And there was little vegetations to get in the way of my flimsy butterfly net - just what appeared to be 'grass' growing from the bottom of the pond. And, since I didn't see them, I figured they must be right at or just under the loose leaves at the bottom. So I some deep swoops with a butterly net. Success at last! Yay! I think I'll try to raise them to sexaul activity size. Seems if I didn't get some mud from the bottom, I didn't get them. 7 tads, about 1.5 - 2 ".


Andry
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2010 18:00


What time of day do you go out looking for frogs in general? I go out during my lunch break but find none. I figure I need to go out closer to night time or real early in the morning?


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Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2010 22:27


Almost any time of the day. If you live in the range of Northern Leopard Frogs, go to a field this time of year (and later) near a wetland where they breed, and they will be hanging around in 'fields' (hence the common name "field frogs") - any area with long grass or other medium-sized herbaceous vegeations. On cloudy, humid days (common near Lake Michigan, where I collect) will be far from water too - not quite as far as N. Leopard Frogs, and they avoid non-open areas even if it is not sunny. I got both my grays under barrels used as flower planters at my parents' cottage on Lake Michigan. I have one Eastern American toad, which I found right here where I live in the Grand Rapids area. I was a bit before dawn, and I could hardly sleep, so I walked to the store. The littley guy was hopping in the grass near a temporary wetland (only there when the creek near it has enough to overflow).

The tads I caught about 9:00 in the moring in a forested wetland, again near lake Michigan, but I'm pretty sure they're right there all the time until they leave the pond.


Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2010 22:30


Andry, where do you live?


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# Posted: 30 Mar 2012 19:41


I've got 3 females and 5 males,im not sure which mated with which but i have the in a 55 gallon that is mostly water from march-late may than i change the tank up,all i did was put a waterfall filter in and it triggered there breeding more,my peepers are wild caught so instinct kicked in around the last week of march and they started peepin,3 weeks later i had eggs,ive got probably 200 tads right now ill release most in my pond and hopefully have peepers here all next summer,its tough cuz the bulls love to eat them


You keep some frogs inside year-round? And release tads you get in an outdoor pond? Probably not a good idea to release indoor-bred tads outside because.... of possible disease transferred to wild populations of frogs.

What does your indoor set-up look like?


Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2012 20:59


shallow edges where the water has plants in it .... good luck

Actually, I found some peeper tads last spring, and they were in rather deep water with lots of litter. Same seems true this spring in a combination of peepers and striped chorus frogs in one pond.


Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2012 21:08


With catching tads in the wild, you'll have to take a chance that the tads might be one of any local frogs or toads. You might get a peeper, and you might get a Green TF or a Gray TF or a toad. Its a lot like a suprise if you can't really tell what you're scooping up.

This spring, Northern Leopard Frog tads appeared about the same time as striped chorus frog tads. Most chorus frogs seemed to stop calling at about the same time I found a mass of Northern Leopard Frog eggs. The NLF tads are bigger than the the striped chorus frog tads and seem to school together a bit more and are move visible. Tads of true toads are really truly black, whereas tads of striped chorus frogs are a little bit grayish.

Considering the chorus frogs here hatched probably about the same time as the NLF eggs, from what I have seen the chorus frog tads are smaller--plus NLF tads have the coiled intestine visible on the underside even when they are extremely small.


Bill Boelema
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# Posted: 8 May 2013 15:16


I've got 3 females and 5 males,im not sure which mated with which but i have the in a 55 gallon that is mostly water from march-late may than i change the tank up,all i did was put a waterfall filter in and it triggered there breeding more,my peepers are wild caught so instinct kicked in around the last week of march and they started peepin,3 weeks later i had eggs,ive got probably 200 tads right now ill release most in my pond and hopefully have peepers here all next summer,its tough cuz the bulls love to eat them

HerpNwny14,

Can you post a picture of your setup? Does anyone, including you, know what ammonia ranges spring peeper tadpoles can tolerate? I have bought some ammonia testing strips.....


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