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Steven Busch
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 16:52













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memnoch1970
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 17:35 · Edited by: memnoch1970


oh man; those are some beuties steve. god im ssoooooooo jealous. they look pretty healthy. good luck; i got dibs on babys. what do you know about there breeding habits. do they lay eggs in the water or more like red eyes.


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Al_frog
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 18:24


These are not the more typical coloration as can be seen here:
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This type ostensibly comes from a restricted locality. It has the much greater amount and darker blue areas with very little of the orange. Known to some as the 'Black Tar' type for obvious reasons. I suppose it could eventually be called a subspecies or even a new species.

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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 19:02


god i hope you can get them to breed steve.


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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 20:03


well it seems there a foamnest breeding frog. that surprised me; i wonder how difficult it will be to breed them.


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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 21:15


One my fav's.
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 21:22 · Edited by: pollywog_uk


"i wonder how difficult it will be to breed them"

If they are anything like the normal reinwardtii they should be quite easy once well settled.
Nice frogs Steve.


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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 21:50 · Edited by: memnoch1970


pollwog , i take it you have bred these frogs before?


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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 22:35


No but I do know someone that has several times and it's a very easy cycle.


memnoch1970
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2007 23:27


would you care to share that cycle with the class pollywog


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# Posted: 20 Oct 2007 22:53


Also, how big of tanks do these frogs need?

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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 03:46


Steve, you really should be breeding these for god sakes.....



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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 03:51


But I do hope that you still breed the other ones.


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Al_frog
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 03:52


What is that blue thing?

michael novy
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 04:26


Bluewebbed glider


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Steven Busch
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 05:18


These need large enclosures. I would keep a group in a 30w x 48h x 36L

I guess I missed a lot on this thread while at shows last Sept.

Yes w are attempting breeding. They have been settled about 4 to 5 weeks now.


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Hayden
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 18:39


I gotta get one of those blue webbed gliders!!! Wow, very beautiful frog!! Are they even offered in the hobby?

frogfan
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 18:51


yes, they are the "original" local of Rhacophorus Reinwairdtii

spawn
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 20:36


As someone whose main focus is on Rhacophorus, I have seen a couple different morphs of reinwardtii. Note that the blue coloration of the one Mike posted above isn't a default color, but the frog turns that color when it's happy/directly under the light, etc. It's similar to White's turning green or brown or any color in between. At least that's what I've observed with all the reinwardtii I've had in the past two years, but Mike might chime in since he did have a group before. The fine spotting like above is a different morph from some of the more common imported specimens, which can be seen from one of my males here:



It's more smooth skinned, but there is some faint spotting there. The female is patternless, drab green.

I have however, a picture of a male that I once received that did display this pattern of spotting reminiscent of Mike's picture, but this was only once, from a Mexican importer (haha):



Another thing interesting to note is that this specimen was less than two inches long full grown.

The specimens I'm working with now look like this:





My Black Tar Blue Web has the smoothest coloring on the back of the morphs I've seen, but this picture doesn't really display it (take my word -- no pattern whatsoever):



Steven Busch
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2007 03:32


Fingers crossed.






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MegophryidaeMan
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2007 04:08


That's so cool!!!!!

Spawn - I didn't know you were working with Rhacophorus. What species do you keep? Do you ever see them eat? I have not seen mine eat, but imagine they are since there aren't any crickets in their enclosure. Mine are pretty secretive and they don't much like to be watched. haha I have the prominanus though, slightly different in behavior possibley.


spawn
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2007 14:39


Similar to RETF's, they don't tend to move much at all until dark. I have nigropalmatus, normal reinwardtii, and Black Tar Blue Web. I only have a couple of the first and third.

It takes a few weeks before I ever saw my specimens eat. Acclimating correctly to your tank is just so, so hard in my experience. Once you do see them eat, you feel like you're on top of the world. You don't want the temperature to waver more than a degree below what it is the instant they eat, and you want to make sure NOTHING happens to them after that because you've come so far along with them. The nigropalmatus have an even smaller margin of error because they're naturally more lean than the reinwardtii, so it's difficult to judge by stomach girth alone if they are holding their meals or not, and if you don't physically see them eat, you're up the creek. The reinwardtii plump up a bit more than the nigros.

From what I can tell, the prominanus should be pretty much the same husbandry/behaviour. Al_frog has kept them before, so you might want to shoot him an email or maybe he'll chime in here.

And shame on you Chad for not knowing I've had these guys! I've been working with the reinwardtii for the last two years.

MegophryidaeMan
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2007 15:36


I know, the shame of it all. hehe

This is my second round with the Rhacs, and so I am hoping it goes better this time than it did last time. What kind of plants do you have for them to hide on? My rhacs came from Steve, so you know that they are settled pretty much. I have heard one of them call a little bit too Can you post pics of your set-ups?


nat31
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2007 15:57 · Edited by: nat31


how much do those frogs range for

I mean the blue ones

Also how much will the babys be if they have any Steve


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Steven Busch
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2007 16:37


Which blue ones? I think you are asking about the one Mike Novy had which is not what I have.

I have no idea of a price on any potential offspring at this time.

Chad...The Prominanus like a very humid setup. Give them a good water source also. Lots of hiding places and plants with leaves just slightly larger than they are. They really seem to like the dried laurel. Did you notice they are blue on the insides? They also like small prey items 1/3" crickets


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nat31
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2007 16:45


I was asking how much your babys would be and separately asking mike how much the blue ones were


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i have to many frogs to put here anymore
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# Posted: 12 May 2015 20:52 · Edited by: earthtiger


It has the much greater amount and darker blue areas with very little of the orange. Known to some as the 'Black Tar' type for obvious reasons. I suppose it could eventually be called a subspecies or even a new species.

Resembles Rhacophorus norhayati to me.

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