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Joh
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# Posted: 30 May 2013 18:12


Hello Everyone,

I live in South Africa, where there aren't many captive bred frogs for sale, and the ones that you do find are ridiculously expensive. So, I am looking into keeping Wild Caught species. However, I can't find any information on how to calculate vivarium size for your frogs. There are species specific guidelines, but no guideline on how to calculate for a different species.

Can anyone please shed some light on this subject? I was thinking that ten times the length of the frog was probably sufficient, but I would like to confirm this.

Thank you,
Joh

FwoGiZ
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# Posted: 31 May 2013 19:54


it really depends on the frog you want to keep...
tell us which specie and we might be able to help you out but chances are we might not know the species if it's too random/not on the frog market

I strongly encourage you to make researches before going on a frog hunt. You really don't want to deplete an endangered population!!!!



I've had this spring peeper for over 4 years..!
Joh
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83 posts

# Posted: 31 May 2013 22:45


Hi Fwogiz,

Thank you for your reply. I am very familiar with our native species, and their conservatin statuses; as I have been raising tadpoles for several years, and wanted to make sure that I didn't keep any endangered tadpoles.

The only thing is, now I want to make the jump to adult frogs, which is a different ball game entirely.

The species that I am interested in will probably not be familiar to you, but have been chosen due to their sizes, and their volume levels(I live in a house with five other people, so I can't keep anything too loud). The largest species on my list are the Guttural, Raucous, and Red Toads: Amietophrynus gutturalis/rangeri, Schismaderma carens. And then, there are a few smaller species: Cacosternum boettgeri/nanum, Arthroleptella hewitti, Arthroleptis wahlbergi, Phrynobatrachus mababiensis, and Ptychadena mossambica.

I apologize if this has been an information overload, but it was hard to simplify. I'm mainly interested in the smaller species, and Schismaderma.

Thanks,
JOH

Sandy_Bear
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1842 posts

# Posted: 1 Jun 2013 03:32


It can really depend on the species, but here are a few guidelines that I follow and what has been recommended to me by other herpers:

Tree Frogs:

Tree frogs generally require 10 gallons per frog, and you must start with a minimum of a 20 gallon tank. For instance:
10 gallons = 0 frogs
20 gallons = 1 or 2 frogs
30 gallons = 3 frogs
40 gallons = 4 frogs

Toads, (like the American Toad and similar sized species)
Must start with at least a 15 gallon tank, and add another 10-15 gallons per toad
for example:
15 gallons = 1 toad
25-30 gallons = 2 toads
35-45 gallons =3 toads

Big Toads, (Cane Toads, and similar sized species)
40 gallons for the first toad, add another 20-30 gallons per extra toad

American Bull Frogs
These frogs, and similar species require huge tanks, as they can jump 6 feet across. They should have an enclosure that is a minimum of 6 feet long, (125 gallons), but bigger is better. They are a nervous and skittish species, and can end up with bad rostal abrasions and even broken bones if they flea and jump into the glass of the enclosure.

Dwarf Pyxies
You want to start with at least a 30 gallon tank, and add another 10 per additional frog

Giant Pyxies
You want to start with a 40 gallon tank for one, add another 30 gallons per additional frog. Don't house males and females together.

African Clawed Frogs
Start with a 20 gallon tank, add another 10 gallons per frog

African Dwarf Frogs
Start with at least a 5 gallon tank, add another 1-3 gallons per frog. Do not keep these frogs in a deep tank.

Fire Belly Toads
Start with a 10 gallon tank. Add another 5 gallons per frog

Poison Dart Frogs (depending on the species)
5 gallons per frog
Some trios can be housed in 10 gallons.

Pacman Frogs
10-20 gallon tank, depending on species. House singly.


Lots of smaller species of amphibians, you should be able to keep in a 20 gallon.

Joh
Member
83 posts
83 posts

# Posted: 1 Jun 2013 11:25


Thank you Sandy Bear, that was some very useful information.... Apart from the toads, and grass frog, most of the species that I am looking into are very much like dart frogs. About an inch long, with secretive habits, and not great jumpers.

When I get the tank set up, I will post some photos...

FwoGiZ
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1392 posts

# Posted: 4 Jun 2013 05:32


10 gallons +5/frog
but the setup is even more important than the tank size imo. make sure you provide proper care and lotso hide spot and you can very well fit 3 maybe even 4 frogs depending on all the species you mentionned, in a 15gal.



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Joh
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83 posts

# Posted: 5 Jun 2013 16:24


Thank you Fwogiz, will take your advice into consideration.

Enjoy your day, everyone.

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