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Kevins Mom
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# Posted: 2 Mar 2011 02:52


My son's grey tree frog is acting strange. It seems to be molting, and having muscle spasms. I watched it fall from a leaf on the plastic plant it was trying to climb. It was flat on it's stomach with it's legs stretch stright out. When my son picked it up, it looked as if the legs were frozen like that. This certainly isn't normal behavior, even though I have not spent a lot of time observing it. I started searching for answers on the internet and found none. But, I found this forum, I hope someone here can help.


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# Posted: 2 Mar 2011 03:59


It sounds like he is dieing

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# Posted: 2 Mar 2011 05:40


It sounds as if it is having seizures, any history you can provide may help, Bill

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# Posted: 2 Mar 2011 15:01


Thank you Bill,

Like I said, I didn't do a whole lot of observing of the frogs. I will tell you what I can.

We found this frog last fall, and put it in the tank with the 2 green tree frogs my son got for his birthday in August, probably our first mistake. the gray has had a great appitite, and has grown to twice the size it was when he was first put in the tank. My son noticed something unusual last week. I thought the frog was just shedding it's skin, and didn't worry about it. Last night, it was sitting on the rock (still shedding), and then moved to climb up the artificial plant. As it was doing this, it's leg was shaking like mine do when I've worked them and I put them in a position of partial contraction and hold them there. Poor little thing...something didn't happen just right as he was climbing, mostly with his fore legs, that were not shaking btw. He tried to hang on but lost it's grip and fell. Like I said, it looked as if it was paralized, legs stretched straight out.

I sanitized an old fish tank to move him to last night. I put a rock, and a water bowl on top of a few layers of paper towel. There is no bedding. The frog managed to get into the water bowl when I had left the room shortly after I put him in the tank. He's been there ever since. Before he got in the bowl, I could see the muscles in his hind legs contracting. I don't know if they are still doing this. But I am happy to see that he is still alive.

The frogs have had mostly meal worms for food, and get crickets when we get the meal worms which is about once a month. The other frogs seem to be just fine...nothing unusual reported by my son, or observed by me.

I just moved the new tank from where it was to where I could see down into the water bowl. It could be the muscles are still jerking...but I don't see it. I don't see his toes moving either...and they were...the middle one, at least. Last night he looked kinda like an impatiend person drumming his finger...if you know what I mean.

Of course I had to say something...now I see his left fore leg middle digit drumming. I wonder if it's just stressed. I also wonder if this frog requires hibernation.

That's about all I can tell you. If you have specific questons, I could ask my son...who is only 11, but he's certainly spent more time observing the frogs than I have...at least before last night.

Thanks again for your help!

divinia


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# Posted: 2 Mar 2011 17:16 · Edited by: Moderator


We found this frog last fall, and put it in the tank with the 2 green tree frogs my son got for his birthday in August, probably our first mistake.

You should never mix different species of frogs together. Frogs/Toads/Newts/Salamanders all have different types of toxins that they secrete. Some are more toxic then others. This is a big problem as they will share a water dish and this is where most of the transfer will take place.
Also mixing causes a large amount of stress on the inhabitants of the tank. Stress is a big killer for frogs. Larger frogs will eat all the food, and possibly eat the smaller frogs in the tank too.

The frogs have had mostly meal worms for food, and get crickets when we get the meal worms which is about once a month. The other frogs seem to be just fine...nothing unusual reported by my son, or observed by me.

Mealworms are not the best feeders. They have hard exoskeletons that are tough for the frogs (and other herps) to digest. Kinda like when you eat corn, how the skin on the corn doesn't get digested and comes out whole. It's kinda the same with the mealworms, but a mealworm is a lot bigger for a frog, the a piece of corn is for you and me. So there is a risk of impaction with that. Mealies are fine in moderation, but they should never be the main staple.

Can you give us some more information about the mixed tank he was housed in?

Temperature?
Humidity?
Which supplements did you use?
Substrate Used?
Did you use water conditioner for the water bowl?
How often was the water bowl being cleaned?
Did you treat your frogs for Chytrid?
Did you treat your frogs for parasites? Does their poop look normal?
Was the Gray Tree Frog quarantined before being added to the tank with the Green Tree Frogs?
Are you going to make a vet appointment to take your frog to?

Can you also post a couple of photos of the frog and what his other terrarium looks like?

How to Post a Photo

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# Posted: 2 Mar 2011 17:48


Yes, you should not mix species, or any frog without a period of quarantine. The only thing that stands out to me is per your words,the gray was rapidly growing. If this animal was in a growth spurt without proper calcium and vitamin supplementation you could get seizures, especially from calcium deficiency. Sadly, if this the case your animal may not recover as bad as it sounds. I would suggest calcium gluconate mixed in water and soaking animal in it. I do not know where to get this other than a vet. Somebody else hopefully will see this and have a suggestion , good luck, Bill

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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 07:04


Thank you Bill.

I looked for some powered calmag stuff i used to take, i thought i rememberd it being calcium gluconate...but i didn't have any luck. i did find the supplement powder at the pet store though...and since i had no other, i used that. i mixed up some in some water and made him sit in it. he actually started croaking. I don't know if this is a good sign or not...but he didn't croak at all last night. and he didn't even die either. well i thoght it was funny, sort of. his color seems to be much better...he's actually greenish again, instead of the whitish color he had turned...and no more spasms that i can see...but then i wasn't seeing them when he was white. i poured most of the liquid out of the container, and took the lid off. he's back in his tank with the artificial plant kinda in the container, in the event he wants to climb out of it...but for now he's still sitting in the shallow vitamin/calcium/supplement water. i'm keepin' my fingers crossed, and sayin' a little prayer. i'm hoping he'll feel good enough to eat a dusted cricket or meal worm tomorrow.

thanks again!


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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 07:26


oh i'm sorry sandy bear...i did not see your post until now.

the gray was kept separate for about 3 to 4 weeks. no water contidioner...we use reverse osmosis filtered water. the water bowl was cleaned every odd numbered day...at least, and every sunday when the whole tank and everything in it was cleaned. we're out of the substrate, and there was no more of the exact same at the pet store today. i will know it when i see it, but i can't call the name...it was some kind of mulch. Temp is kept around 72 degrees, and humidity would go from moist to dry... I don't know what Chytrid is, so no, they were not treated, nor have they been treated for parisites. no supplements...just mostly crickets in the beginning, and then meal worms and crickets. we were actually told by the ppl at pet smart that crickets were the treat and the meal worms were the staple. you'd think they'd want to sell you the store when you get a new pet...but they said nothing about supplements. the poop looks as normal as any frog poop i've ever seen...which is not saying much. and a vet? i had not thought of a vet. we've had the greens since mid august, and the gray since the beginning of september, they've all been in the same tank since october. and for 5 months everyone has seemed healthy and happy.


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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 13:33


A good water conditioner to use is called "Prime" by Seachem, it's in a red bottle. It gets rid of any Chlorine, Chloramine and Ammonia that is present in your water. It's one of the top two that frog owners recommend for their frogs.
Prime at Petsmart

Does your substrate look like these? It should be coco-fiber. You can also buy coco-fiber substrate from your local garden center, and most DIY stores should have this during the gardening season. It is much cheaper to buy it from one of the DIY stores, but it makes a LOT.

All Living Things Tropical Soil

Exoterra Plantation Soil

Bark substrates, mulch/(coco-husk), and dried moss, will sometimes be marketed for frogs, but they are dangerous for them, because if they manage to eat a piece of bark or moss, it can get stuck in the gut and cause impaction.

I'm not sure how big your terrariums are, but something to keep in mind, with tree frogs, is 20 gallons to start, and allow 10 gallons per frog.
So 20 gallons = 1-2 frogs
30 gallons = 3 frogs
40 gallon = 4 frogs.
Tree frog terrarium can be really fun, because with a few modifications from the DIY store and your local glass cutters, you can turn your terrarium into a vertical


Chytrid is a bad fungus that affects frogs. It is prevalent in both the wild caught and captive bred animals.

This is how to treat for it. No worries, it is easy enough to do:
Chytrid Treatment

You will know if your frogs have parasites because they poop won't look normal. Poops should look like brown turd shapes. Frogs that have parasites (depending on what kind) will have a diarrhea looking poop that may or may not have little white wormy things in it, and may or may not smell really really bad.
Usually drugs like Panacur and Flagyl are used to treat most parasites.

It is a good idea to look up a vet, even just to know if they will see your frog, and to price out a vet visit. Average is about $150, but it depends on the vet office and what the problem is, and how much the treatment will cost.

RepCal is a good supplement to have to dust the prey with. It come highly recommended by most herp keeper.
RepCal

There is no reason you should have to buy mealworms. They are so easy to breed, and basically need the same amount of care that they would if they were not being fed off yet. Just get a small plastic shoe box, put some ground up oatmeal & some bran in it. Give them a potato, carrot, cricket water gel, an orange slice for moisture, and maybe some cardboard egg carton to crawl around on. Cut a hole in the top of the shoe box lid, and hot glue some screen to it (for ventilation). Mealies will pupate and turn into beetles and start breeding for you. Depending on how many you want to have, pick up an extra 100-500 worms.

As far as what the pet shop guy said, Crickets should be the staple, Mealies should be a occasional/supplemental feeder, and the "treat" should be a butterworm, waxworm, small hornworm, or silk worm.

If your country/state allows, you should try to pick up some Dubia Roaches. They are really a super feeder. They are really good for many reasons. They are very nutritious, they are easy for your frog/herp to digest, and they are easy to keep.
They do not smell, they do not make noise, they do not climb glass, they do not run fast, they are easy to breed, and they are not able to bite your frog the way other feeders are able to do.

I hope all goes well with your little gray tree frog, and welcome to the Frog

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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 21:26


Wow! Thank you Sandy Bear for the huge amount of info!

We purchase reverse osmosis, UV treated, charcoal filtered water. This process takes just about everything but the hydrogen and the oxygen out of the water. We used this when we kept fish...no conditioner necessary.

We have been using the mulch type substrate recommended by the pet store. I know where to get the coco coir you wrote about..it's kinda spendy by my estimation for what I was looking to use it for (potting soil component) but it may well be less expensive than the mulch we purchase from the pet store, and it would certainly hold more moisture than the wood mulch.

The pet store said 2 would be fine in a 10 gallon...guess not! and we had the gray in there too. He is now in the tiny quarantine tank (5 gal). I do have a 20 gallon...no top though. I can make some sort of screen top and put them in there for now, and give the gray the 10 gallon until...Im thinking April, when I will give him back to mother nature and let her take care of him.

Their poop is fine by your description...like little firm brown turds.

The supplement I purchased yesterday just so happens to be the RepCal $15 a jar multivitamin supplement...and BTW, the gray looks just dandy now...color is great and not even a twitch. I really hope he will eat something tonight.

It was a pet shop girl...and she said they fed their frogs (Im thinking it was the pet shop frogs) meal worms daily and crickets once a week as a treat. As much as I'd like to think I could. I cannot get to the pet store every 4 to 6 days to buy crickets...I have far too much to do, and those things that pop up screaming always seem to do so when I'm pressed for time, and I'm always pressed for time. So meal worms being the approved staple was wonderful news to me...too bad it was bad info. The store's frog feeding chart says to feed tree frogs red wrigglers, meal worms, and crickets...I could raise red wrigglers (they are great lil composers, and I will be using them for that purpose soon) and meal worms (if I had to...I really hate them), but crickets stink, the adults make noise, and we don't seem to have a lot of luck keeping them alive long enough to feed the frogs what we've bought them, so I'm not so sure I could raise them...and we have jars of recommended stuff for the crickets to consume. You can forget about me willingly allowing a roach in my house...even if it is for food an not a cock roach (I have enough trouble with the meal worms). My son could not possibly clean a 20 gallon tank...He cleans the 10 gallon by emptying it, and letting my husband bring it down to the basement mop sink for a super hot water high pressure wash, and only after much badgering and nagging from mom...there is no way he would do an adequate job on a large tank that could not be moved easily and hosed out.

I'm happy to report the gray seems to be doing much better. Hopefully he will thrive again. Then when we are well into spring and I will return him to the wild. I believe I will take over the care of the greens as well until I'm sure they are healthy and I will give them back to PetSmart, unless one of yall want them. I'd rather give them to someone who knows how and has the time to take care of them, so let me know. They are awfully cute, but more responsibility than my 11 year old can handle...and I have enough stuff to do without having to pick up his slack as far as pet frogs are concerned.

Thanks Again!


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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 21:32


Check in your area for a hydroponics store!

Minnesota

I get a HUGE 17 gallon block of coco for $17 (equals about 8 bricks of bed-a-beast or ecoearth that you buy in the pet store)


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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 22:38


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i'm trying to post a pic of the gray tree frog. lets hope this works. yesterday he was about the colo of his toes in dark places, and a grayish white in the light spots. my son says he is even a more vivd color than b4 he got sick.


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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 22:39


didn't work...hummm? nevermind. not important enough to keep trying.


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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 22:56


but crickets stink, the adults make noise, and we don't seem to have a lot of luck keeping them alive long enough to feed the frogs what we've bought them, so I'm not so sure I could raise them...and we have jars of recommended stuff for the crickets to consume.
I buy my crickets in bulk (I have quite a few frogs at home), and have no problem keeping them alive for 2-3 weeks (they are usually all eaten after that amount of time)
I don't feed my crickets the pre-made cricket chow/water anymore. I've heard a lot of people say that those premade diets are the reason for their crickets dieing sooner.

I have a medium size sterilite bin that I use to keep my crickets in, I cut a big hole in the lid and glue gunned bug metal bug screen to it.
The bottom I put some oats and bran (cereal department)
I feed my crickets veggies, and sometimes fruit (if there is no fruit flies around). I usually feed them things like carrot slaw, broccoli slaw, different types of lettuces, or a slice of potato. These types of foods act as a water source for the crickets as well as food.

If you want to buy enough crickets to last you a month, get them really small, say 1/4" size, that way they will have lots of time to grow, and you won't have to listen to them scream at you at all hours of the night.
If you need bigger crickets, then take the time to sort thought them and feed off all the males first. They are the ones that make all the noise after all. If you look at their cricket bums, the females will have 3 prongs sticking out the back of them (one on the left, one on the right, and one big one in the middle - which gets longer the older they get). The males will only have 2 prongs, one on the left and one on the right.

How often does your son clean the tank out? The terrarium shouldn't need a huge massive clean all the time.
I change the substrate about once a month, (unless it's a planted viv tank, then cleaning is a bit different for those), spot cleaning is usually done every week (pick up poops), and water dishes are usually cleaned every day.

It was a pet shop girl...and she said they fed their frogs (Im thinking it was the pet shop frogs) meal worms daily and crickets once a week as a treat.
One thing to remember about pet shop employees, is that they are there to sell you stuff, period. If they have too many mealworms on hand, the owners/managers will tell their staff to push those this week. If they have too many 10 gallon tanks on hand, they will tell their staff to push those.

My frogs normally get fed once a week. Sometimes they get fed twice a week, or every other day. But they can expect one really good meal every week.
Baby frogs are a bit different where they need to be fed every day as they are growing.

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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 22:58


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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 23:31


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# Posted: 3 Mar 2011 23:32


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# Posted: 4 Mar 2011 00:28


Kevins Mom, nice frog, and good luck. Sandy Bear, wow, I have nothing left to say, now I feel so insignificant

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# Posted: 4 Mar 2011 01:51


Bill you are not insignificant at all, you have got to be the most intelligent person I know. You knew how to fix Divinia's frog without even seeing a picture of it, and you nailed the diagnosis of my fat tail gecko when every one else kept insisting that she was egg bound. The amount of stuff you know just amazes me and I pay very close attention to the things you say.

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# Posted: 4 Mar 2011 03:13


Wow, Sandy Bear, quit my head will explode, flattery will get you everywhere Seriously I could really add nothing to your post, good info. Lets hijack this thread, what was the outcome on the fat tail. I think we should have a suggestion box made when people come asking for help and they get it they should let us know the outcome as that is the only way we can know when we as a site of froggers has given good advice and feedback also helps in helping the next problem presented ya know, Bill

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# Posted: 4 Mar 2011 21:25


Bill it's the last post on this tread:

Fat Tail Gecko Update

I think we should have a suggestion box made when people come asking for help and they get it they should let us know the outcome as that is the only way we can know when we as a site of froggers has given good advice and feedback also helps in helping the next problem presented ya know,

Well, we could post a bunch of care sheets with pictures on how to fix problems, and anyone that has used that method of treatment can say "yay it worked" or "booo, my frog died"

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# Posted: 4 Mar 2011 22:28


I don't think anything can be added to this site, I hear it is a fossil!

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# Posted: 5 Mar 2011 01:23


According to Heather, the administrator has to do that, "Blink" - I think, who has been MIA for some time now.

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# Posted: 5 Mar 2011 03:21


Well, I have an update on the gray tree frog....who is now named "Fat Buddah" uh-oh...he has a name now, which means I have lots of learnin' to do. I put a dusted meal worm in the tank last night, as he was not at all interested in the cricket the night b4...and I wanted to give him something that was slow moving...because, well, Buddah was still moving slow. He didn't eat it, but now has his eye on the cricket I just put in his tank. LOL...I'm watching him stalk the cricket now. He hasn't eaten it yet. But his eyes are solid black and he keep moving to get into better position.

I really expected him to eat the darned thing quickly.

I will continue to post on his progress until he's eating and pooping like normal again.

Thank you Bill for your diagnosis and remedy, and Thank you Sandy Bear for all your informaton on care. I really do appreciate it.


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# Posted: 5 Mar 2011 03:26


YAY!!!!! he ate the cricket...there will be poop tomorrow! omgoodness! he has a really sour expression on his face now...oh, he just needed to swallow Thank you! Thank you! Thank you Bill! you saved MY frog...yep, Kevin gets to have his greenies, but I get the gray...LOL
I'm hooked!


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# Posted: 5 Mar 2011 03:43


If you want the crickets to move slower, so they are easier for him to catch, either break or rip off the back legs. They will still be able to scurry about, but they won't have that leaping ability.

I think that that is really awesome that you and your son have a hobby that you can share in together. Frogs are very awesome pets, and they say that children that have pets are smarter then kids that don't. Pets teach kids about being responsible, and how to be compassionate to others.

If you are ever looking to up grade any of your tanks, check out Craig's List or Kijiji. You can find some really awesome deals on there. Heather just found herself a 30 gallon tall for $5, and last summer I saw an ad for 2 x 55 gallon tank (complete set ups with fish) for free. And you can always barter with people, which can be really fun.

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# Posted: 5 Mar 2011 04:41


lol...I think that's sooo funny that you talk about breaking the crickets legs to slow them down so they can be food quicker...and then say something about teaching kids to be compassionate.

crickets are stupid...it was crawling all over the frog...serves him right to get eaten! I think the predator/prey relationship is good for kids to learn too.

Craig's list is a great place to find stuff you need, no matter what it is. But I've never heard about Kijiji, I'll have to check it out.

Now that It looks like we're going to keep the frogs, my minds been cooking with ideas of new tanks to build. As soon as spring hits, I'm going to craft a tall one with a door out of plexiglass.

I do have a question though. When we first set the tank up, we had a $17 piece of wood for them to climb on...it was moldy in about 2 weeks and they have just had the artificial plant to climb on since...is there any thing to do about stuff mildewing...or what would you suggest for something that could go the length of say a 3 foot tall tank? the suction cups on the plants don't suck too long and then they fall to the floor...perhaps I should just look around at the posts.

Anyway, thanks for all the advice...My son and I...and probably especially Fat Buddha thank you from the bottom of our frog loving hearts.

Kevin's Mom - Divinia


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# Posted: 5 Mar 2011 05:35


lol...I think that's sooo funny that you talk about breaking the crickets legs to slow them down so they can be food quicker...and then say something about teaching kids to be compassionate.
lol, I have no sympathy for crickets at the moment, they all deserve to die. My order of crickets I just got in yesterday are ALL screamers, I'm having difficulties feeding off 1000 crickets (this usually lasts about 2 weeks), my frogs and dragons have eaten all they possibly can for today. The walls in my apartment are pretty good noise wise, but I still worry about the cricket noise.

I live in Canada, and Kijiji is the "craig's list" in my city. I think we have "craig's list" too, but nobody here uses it.

I do have a question though. When we first set the tank up, we had a $17 piece of wood for them to climb on...it was moldy in about 2 weeks

That white fuzzy mold that you see on the wood is fine. It is not toxic to the frogs. It is not appealing to look at though, and there is a very simple solution to that. Order in some "spring-tails". They are these little itsy-bitsy bugs and they will eat the mold off of the wood. They will also eat the frog poop in the tank. Lots of people use them, especially if you have a planted viv set up. They will not harm your frogs in any way. Spring-tails are also used as a food source for dart frogs. They aren't very expensive, and you will probably have to order them online from either a dart frog site or bug site.

Another good buggy to look for, either in the garden or forest are "Pill-Bugs", "Rollie-Pollies" "Wood-lice". They are pretty much all the same bug, well they aren't actually a bug, but a fresh water land crustacean, kinda related to the crayfish. They are oval shaped usually a grayish brown colour and have 14 legs. They also don't bite and will clean up that mold and frog poop.

*A word of caution about collecting wild caught bugs: If you are going to collect wild caught bugs as either a food source or for viv clean up crew, it is a good idea to breed them, and introduce the off spring to the tank. Wild caught bugs can carry parasites or have been sprayed with toxic chemicals like pesticides or herbicides, all of which will not be good for froggy's health. *
(wood lice are very easy to breed if you are ever interested in trying it)

the suction cups on the plants don't suck too long and then they fall to the floor...perhaps I should just look around at the posts.
I would suggest buying a couple of these if your frogs are too rough on the suction cups. It's a magnet suction cup that clips on to both sides of the glass. It should be found in the aquarium (fish) department of the pet shop.

ZooMed brand "Industrial MagClip" Item # MS-1
MagClip

They are for attaching filter intakes and air line tubing, but with some crafty work with a couple of tie-wraps it should work out well. They have stood up well to my Oscar fish, so I'm sure they will do just fine with the tree frogs.
I paid about $10 each for mine.

Now that It looks like we're going to keep the frogs, my minds been cooking with ideas of new tanks to build. As soon as spring hits, I'm going to craft a tall one with a door out of Plexiglas.
Right well remember:
GE Silicone II for Windows & doors - That is the silicone that you want to use when building terrariums (in clear, black or brown)
You can get glass cut at a glass cutters (ask for the edges to be filed down) for probably cheaper then getting some Plexiglas. Also if you need to silicone anything to it, silicone works best on glass. Silicone won't last long on Plexiglas.

Live plants are good:
Zamioculcas
This one is my Green Tree Frogs favorite, It's about 24" tall, so it would go good in a tall tank.


Snake Plants, Elephant Ears, Pothos, and Bromeliads are all good plants to use

Also, if you plan a hike in the forest, you can pick up some really neat looking mosses. You might have to look them up though, to make sure you find out what kinds of lighting, temps and humidity they are tolerant of.

Do you know how to clean live plants before adding them to your terrariums?

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# Posted: 5 Mar 2011 06:30


Well I was going to suggest popping the jumping legs off the crix to slow them down but apparently my assistant beat me to it so I am glad your frog seems to be doing better, also you might consider fake plants as they never die or mold, I use a lot of them. Oh yeah Sandy LOL

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# Posted: 5 Mar 2011 11:51


Bill, it's just fake plants have that whole "fake look" to them. I'm not saying I don't use them, it's just the live ones look so much prettier

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