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# Posted: 16 May 2003 04:15


Heather is going to love this I bet.
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I racked my brain and just about every search engine out there to remember where I seen the link to this KS post. Its about the only information I have ever seen about Bufo Varigatus. But alas I got it again.

This was from Kingsnake.com in the OLD forums, thats why I had trouble finding it again.

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Posted by JKooiman on March 21, 2001 at 14:10:17:

Well folks, writing that post earlier today gave me the bug to dare another net-headache and do some serious research on Bufo variegatus. Like everyone knows, I love Bufos, and these toads are certainly some of the neatest toads I've come across.

As I mentioned, I did some serious reseach the past few hours. I dared a few spanish sites, and that is what has educated me on these amazing toads. I hope this post will be a "treat" for those who own these toads, have owned these toads, or just want some info on an interesting animal.

Well, the Christmas Toad, the Lemon Toad, the Chilean Christmas Toad, the Peruvian Yellow Toad, and the Striped Toad, all seem to be the same thing. Collectively, these names all identify Bufo variegatus, a small (2"[img]http://talkto.thefrog.org/img/smilies/grin.gif[/img] toad that inhabits the southern tip of South America and ranges through Argentina, Peru, and Chile. This toad distinguishes itself as ONE OF THE PLANETS MOST SOUTHERLY AMPBHIBIANS! In fact, the two most southerly ampibians are Bufo variegatus and Pleurodema bufonia. Bufo variegatus is a resident of Patangonia, a very cold place if you know your geography. Apparently, the toad lives in coastal ranges that are COOL and HUMID. One source I read said that the toads live in cool, humid, coastal forests. Another source reported that the toads lived at high elevations and seemed to have an affinity for large rocks as opposed to forests, and the areas where Bufo variegatus were found in quantity were hillsides covered in rocks. The individuals were found under the rocks, leading the researchers to believe that this habitat type was integral to the animals. The Christmas Toad is a variable animal, and the base color varies from brown to "brilliant" green. I assume that it was brilliant green specimens that popularized this animal for wild-collection and probably gave it it's name Christmas Toad. I'm sure there exists individuals that posses red warts and a brilliant green background, leading to a very "Christmassy" frog. One character of the toad that does not vary is the stripes, and this species does not seem to ever lack them. Bufo variegatus is not sexually dimorphic, though males may be smaller than females and may exhibit rough pads on the forearms during breeding. These toads are not vocal either, and no sound files exist for them. They have been reported to cheep and chirp, but that's it. The toads are reported as "bad hoppers" and "bad swimmers" leading me to believe that my toads aren't the only clumbsy ones. In the countries where Bufo variegatus is native it appeares that that the toad is hard to study and has been little-studied. As of yet, the animal is under no threat, but it remains little studied. However, Bufo variegatus distinguishes itself as a very cold tolerant animal, to be able to survive so far south.

This new info will reflect on how I care for my toads. For awhile there it seemed that my toads preferred warmth and dryness over cool and moist. I still have reservations regarding humidity though. My toads seem to dislike water being sprayed on them. I feel that when our toads make daily forays, they are probably using this as an advantageuos behavior in an environment that would be too cold to support great quantities of night-flying insects. Also, cold night temps probably make hunting difficult. This undoubtedly explains the toads diurnal behavior.

Anyways, I hope everyone enjoys this post, I certainly would. It would be nice if I got some feedback on your toads as I plan on writing an article now. Thanks JK
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Posted by Morgan on March 22, 2001 at 10:12:53:

In Reply to: The Ultimate Post On the Christmas/Lemon Toad! README! posted by JKooiman on March 21, 2001 at 14:10:17:

I had done some reading myself about the geography and climate of their native area and came up with the same conclusions about cool and misty but not really wet. The temperatures over their native range, can go from 45F to 75F to even as high as 80F mid-summer. As with most Bufo species, they probably move into cooler areas during the day.

I think it will be very hard for most of us to duplicate their natural conditions, but they seem like a very hardy and adaptable species.

I have 5 in a 30 gallon tall tank with cypress mulch substrate, a half log, piles of rocks and a shallow water dish. I do have a 40 watt bulb over one end and they seem to congregate under the rocks on that end more than on the other end, but a couple of them stay on the cooler/damper side. They will actually hunt the crickets I put in there and are quite active in the morning.

All of mine will soak and defecate in the water dish at night.

These toads are really delightful and I hope we can continue sharing information and experiences as undoubtedly they will start showing up more on the imports list.
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Posted by JKooiman on March 22, 2001 at 12:16:46:

In Reply to: Awesome!!! More... posted by Morgan on March 22, 2001 at 10:12:53:


That's interesting that your toads enjoy the basking side of the tank. Mine also seemed to enjoy a warm light. My only conclusion that I can draw from this is that the animals bask in the sun in their native habitat. This would make sense if temps are very cool. I believe that it is probably cloudy where they come from, the high, coastal ranges often are,and sun would be a precious commodity. How did you find their natural range? Here's how I found it, I read a spanish site on the toads and it identified them as living in a certain group of mountain ranges. Did you find a climate map for these mountains? What was it's adress? I'll post a few of the adressess I gleaned info from when I get print out a few.JK
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Posted by JKooiman on March 21, 2001 at 14:19:25:

In Reply to: The Ultimate Post On the Christmas/Lemon Toad! README! posted by JKooiman on March 21, 2001 at 14:10:17:


I would advise a large terrarium, at least a thrity gallon, planted, but with plenty of room for piles of rocks with plenty of caves. Right now humidity is up in the air, but certainly do not heat your toads. Keep them at cool room temp.JK
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Posted by JKooiman on March 22, 2001 at 12:26:03:

In Reply to: Re: thanks very much for your research.... posted by Denise on March 21, 2001 at 21:53:45:

Mine also hide a lot, but one of them is bold. The rock cracks I have provided them makes a perfect hiding place, and they dive for cover when I appear. Since they are bufos, I eventually anticipate that I will find my way to their hearts through food. Are you sure yours are nocturnal? Check their enclosure with a flashlight at night, I thought the same thing when I first got mine, but after making the rounds on all my other nocturnal herps, I found them all to be active but my Christmas Toads asleep.JK
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Well thats all I could find on th I-Net as of late. If I find anything else I'll let you know.


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# Posted: 16 May 2003 04:25


your really are good. i think heather will love you.

dana


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# Posted: 16 May 2003 04:43


She better not love me!!! I'm gruesome


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# Posted: 16 May 2003 06:07


LOL funny thing is.... I found that one too this afternoon.

Does that make me cool too?


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# Posted: 16 May 2003 06:46


well I found it days ago but I lost it lol.


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# Posted: 16 May 2003 07:07


LOL I may have found it sooner if I had paid closer attention to what I was reading. Pages coming up in Italian and Spanish kept throwing me off LOL


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Charlie
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# Posted: 16 May 2003 07:35


haha just translate em


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# Posted: 16 May 2003 07:37


but that takes time and effort... and I have a 2 year old. So there goes all my time and chasing her take all my effort LOL


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Charlie
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# Posted: 16 May 2003 07:41


effort? you click the translate page link.


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dana456
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# Posted: 17 May 2003 05:18


heather i have a two year old little boy and it takes all my effort to keep hime from attacking the keyboard and mouse. lol

dana


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# Posted: 5 May 2010 12:55


I wonder if i can pull up this ancient thread?

Anyways, tickled me that this ancient kingsnake post of mine from back in college was actually used for info! I sound kinda like a know it all ass, but I didn't realize this stuff hung around the net so long!

I was actually searching for my old melanophryniscus posts on KS, they had really good info that i've totally forgotten by now

Well, if this gets resurected, does anyone keep these? I have one left, he's about ten now and healthy as a horse.

Oh, by the way, this info is totally inaccurate! These toads are definately not B.variegatus! The true variegatus is truly spectacular (you can find images on the web) totally different. So I just felt i had to edit my outdated info


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# Posted: 5 May 2010 13:11


I hope nobody gets pissed I pulled up such an old thread. Some forums are really anal. So apologies if this isn't kosher!JK


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# Posted: 5 May 2010 15:14


Those are some really cute toads.

If it's not variegatus, what kind of toad do you have? Just curious. :>


1.1 adult Hymenochirus Boettgeri
12 juvenile H. Boettgeri
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jesse kooiman
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# Posted: 5 May 2010 15:58


Europeans have them as Chaunus rubropunctatus or rhinella rubropunctatus ( i hate that bufo got broke up ), makes sense, rubropunctatus means red warts i think. I'm not totally convinced, i haven't found anything conclusive in south american sites. I've been trying to get ahold of a good patagonian guide, but i don't think one exists yet. Luckily Dante Fenolio is working on the area currently (on Rhinoderma darwini)JK


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