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froglove42
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# Posted: 6 Aug 2003 00:12


Yeah, definately, and now we know so much more... Never making that mistake again... The reason that she had those particular animals together is because that is what the pet store had.. so another case of pet stores sucking

cheshireycat
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# Posted: 6 Aug 2003 04:37


Wow, do green iguanas eat meat? Anyway, it is an odd mix! But that's how we learn...


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Brian
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2003 03:04


Yeah, my iguana loved two things. Melons and meat.

Newts are especially bad to eat due to the tedrotoxin most have.

cheshireycat
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2003 06:07


I'd love to take some pics of some of the iguanas we have running around parts of Miami.

I remember we found one at this "secret beach" I used to go to and my friend chased it and it dove straight into the water. We didn't see it for 5-10 minutes, until we saw its head floating above water and then it swam to another part of shore. We had fun that day.

Then, my grandmother lives by a freshwater-brackish water lake very near Miami Int'l Airport, and there are a bunch of differently-sized iguanas, mostly green iguanas, that live there. Who knows how so many got there, but you can usually find one or two of the monsters basking on the grass, eating some lettuce (or whatever is thrown for them). They are very cool. And huge.


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ginevive
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2003 23:32


Are iggies native to Fla? Or were they introduced by idiotic people? I am more of a frog specialist, not that sure about lizards, but I didn't think they were from Florida.


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Derek Benson
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2003 23:59 · Edited by: Derek Benson


MIA gets a lot of imported animals, it's possible some could have escaped to add to the population of pets thrown out by unresponsible owners.


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cheshireycat
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2003 01:25


We've had iguanas running around for very, very long, but they were introduced at some moment. And they seem to be doing very well here, there are many.


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mve
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2003 08:00


we have a group of parrots, I dont know what kind, sorry, but they fly around near arcadia, ca. about 50-70 of them. i think they got out during a petstore fire along time ago. that is what the word is. they have been around for like 30 years or more. its crazy to see introduced species around.


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cheshireycat
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2003 13:23


A petstore fire did all that? Wow! We have natural parrots here, but most of our ducks are introduced, lol. The parrots are green with red undersides to their wings and they make tons and tons of noise.

Anyway, after Hurricane Andrew, the tropical bird display at our zoo broke and tons of birds came out. It wasn't that bad since many or most of them are particular to the Caribbean (although not necessarily Florida), and we had some of the coolest birds visiting our backyard after that. I remember these ones that were mostly black with every main-rainbow color on them (think painted mantella-style, but more colors). My grandmother recognized them from Cuba, but I thought they were the coolest things. After a while, they went disappearing, but I just hope they ended up where they belong or something.


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newbiefrogdude
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2003 18:28


i have a 55 gallon tank withs tons of greenery and stuff. i have one male anole, and one teenage whites tree frog. is that bad that they are in the enclosure together? if anyone has answers, please answer. thanks.

blink
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# Posted: 18 Aug 2003 19:08


Yep keeping an anole with a white is a bad idea, you just need to read this topic from the begining for the info.


To everone - has anyone got the link to that pic of a white eating the anole. would make a good begining to this thread.

Cate


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# Posted: 18 Aug 2003 22:25


I found this...



and this...



LOL




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Josh
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2003 06:50


That's a great picture. Pretty funny too.


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# Posted: 19 Aug 2003 19:29 · Edited by: blink



This is why you dont keep anoles with whites.

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cheshireycat
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2003 20:13


Newbiefrogdude, what kind of anole are you keeping with your Whites?

Many male anoles, especially brown anoles, are very territorial (they'll feel very uncomfortable even if the Whites isn't big enough yet to eat it). They can spread diseases to eachother, like totally different environments, and will bother eachother with their presense.


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newbiefrogdude
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2003 22:46


ok. thanks. i had separated them before i read these because my anole (male) started to get territorial, and had stress marks and his dewlap out and stuff... so luckily i had a cage for him. thanks again for the info.

cheshireycat
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# Posted: 19 Aug 2003 23:26


K, that sounds good Let us know if you need more help.


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utopia781
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# Posted: 21 Aug 2003 08:01


a pet store near my house keeps fbt and gtf in the same tank (which is not even a 2.5 gal) and barking tree frogs with wtf. when i bought my fbt and gtf, i assumed they could be kept together, so i did, and ive never had any problems since. one of the fbt and gtf actually appear to be really good friens!

cheshireycat
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# Posted: 21 Aug 2003 08:08


Well, that friendship will probably end up killing your GTF, unfortunately.


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shalena
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# Posted: 21 Aug 2003 08:40


This is why you dont keep anoles with whites.


I saw this picture on kingsnake today. The person who posted it had actually laughed that the white's ate the anole. It breaks my heart that people do this to animals.

cheshireycat
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# Posted: 21 Aug 2003 09:56


The pic isn't showing, but there's another on here, too.

I mean, anoles are sold as feeders to many animals, so if you want to do that.. at least buy those and don't catch your own wild animals.


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Brian
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# Posted: 26 Aug 2003 07:12


Especially since wild things can have parasites.

ginevive
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# Posted: 29 Aug 2003 14:11


Frogs do not become friends. They are solitary in the wild, except during mating or eating one another. Any other animal is either prey, predator, or competition. I am mildly enrged that someone would put a firebelly toad in with another frog. That is a hideous death wish for the other animal. Firebellies are poisonous enough to ive humans a burning, red and swollen eye (happened to my boyfriend after he touched one and rubbed his eye.) ARGH.

As for the guy who was laughing while the frog ate the anole, he is most likely a deranged future serial killer. most people who are dangerous sociopaths started by abusing animals. Using them as feeders is a whole different ball game, but torturing pets is sick!

There are few things that enrage me more than people who do not know how to house their herps! grr!


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cheshireycat
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# Posted: 29 Aug 2003 23:26


The problem isn't people who don't know, Gin, the problem is when they learn but don't give a crap.


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Zookeep
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2003 07:44


Amen, cheshire. It's one thing to just not know the right way. It's another to know the right way and ignore it.

In response to the person who said I should jack the frogs from the chick who has them in with FBT, I'd consider it, but I live at least 8-10 away now. And I'm guessing she had them together, but now I'm not sure if she said she did. But with the regularity her tree frogs died at, it wouldn't surprise me if she did something like that.

Zookeep
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2003 15:06


Oh, green iguanas are herbivores. They don't eat meat. Well, I'll amend that because someone said their green eats meat. They don't have the digestive systems to handle meat, so they wouldn't be able to digest it properly and it would likely be pooped out whole.

cheshireycat
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2003 11:52


I've usually read that green iguanas are herbivores. Also, there are a bunch of colonies in Miami (they've been introduced long, long ago) and I've always seen them only eat greens.

However, after reading that I decided to look into it and found that green iguanas, especially when they're young and growing, seem to supplement their diet with some insects. I don't know anything about iguana digestive systems, but I read it in enough places that I'm going to regard it as true, unless enough things pop up that contradict that.


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Zookeep
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2003 19:55


I've never heard that young iguanas eat insects. Learn something new every day! If the source is one that's reliable, then definitely suppliment young iguanas with insects.

becki
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2003 23:18


In regards to the 'WTF eating anole' pic....things are being taken a bit out of context and being blown out of proportion a bit. The person from KS that posted the pic, who "...actually laughed that the White's ate the anole..." and who "...is most likely a deranged future serial killer, most people who are dangerous sociopaths started by abusing animals..." is Henry Capobianco. For those of you who know Henry (that's his WTF in the above pic), you know he in no way mistreats any of his animals and isn't being protrayed appropriately here at all. The 'laughter' in the post of the picture was to the people who were insistent that anoles and WTFs could be kept together with no problems. He does use anoles as feeder "treats" for his large frogs as I do with pinkies - while it may not be the happiest part of life, it if the food chain of nature. And while some people may do these things to be plain cruel, Henry isn't one of them. He's my frog guru and I'm ever endebted to whom for sharing his wealth of knowledge with me to better care fro my frogs. Didn't aim to preach here, but just had to clear that up.
Becki

cheshireycat
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2003 04:42


Well, I don't think anyone has any problem with people using anoles as feeders... Only it's easy to see that photo and think that this person kept the two pets together.

Anyway, it's good that you did clear that up, Becki, because he doesn't deserve that judgement then


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