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Petfreak1321
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 06:31


I am just curious on the different ways of Cultivating Flightless Fruitflies

Looking for a way that is easy, cost effective, clean (don't want them all over the house if possible)

I have several 1 gallon jugs that could be used


Mach
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 07:31


there are many methods used. here is what i use to feed my two Vents.

for the culture i use mashed potato flakes, vineger, water 50/50 and mix it together, it is very easy and you can make a bunch of it. there are many out there that have many more ingrediants. I dont think it is neccesary.

I use a coffee filter for the larvae to climb on, and i also use a coffee filter to cover the top of the MASON jar. The mason jars are reusable and easy to clean.

Fill the jar about an inch high with the mixture, i have gotten results within 5 days of adding flys.

But i must warn that you may get a stray WINGED fly enter your colony when you are not looking and breed.....all your future larvae will have wings because the wingless trait is recesive.

Also make sure to put you flys in the freezer momentarily so that they dont fly away when you open the lid. Just enough to make them sleepy...zzzzzzzz

well thats all ive learned


Name: Mac Harvey
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Locality: Davis,CA
Frogs: only darts now
doc1975
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 13:16


for the culture i use mashed potato flakes, vineger, water 50/50 and mix it together,

You've listed 3 ingredients, but say 50/50 mix... can you be more specific?

Hayden
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2007 18:26


I got this great recipe from Dendroboard called the "Power Mix" by Chris Miller. I've tried MANY different media recipes over the past 3 years that I have been in the dart frog hobby, but nothing comes even close to the yields I have gotten from this recipe!!! Here it is:

In a pot, bring the following to a boil.

2 cups water
2 cups vinegar
1/8th cup Dark Molasses
1/2 can of grape juice concentrate
2-3 overripe mushed up bananas

After bringing this mixture to a boil, add the dry material

1/2 cup Malt O Meal
2/3 cup potato flakes
1/3 cup Brewer's yeast (the key ingredient!!!)

Pour about 2 inches of medium into your culture cups and sprinkle the top with activated yeast. Add flies and BAM!!! This is a very productive recipe and I suggest giving it a try if you keep darts or any other animals that require FF. I've found that this recipe usually makes about 6 or 7 cultures, so adjust as needed to fit your needs.

Oh, and Petfreak, I would highly suggest you not use the one gallon jugs as cultures. You will more than likely have many, many escapees this way. Just a word of advice.

Petfreak1321
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2007 01:04


I think I will use mason jars (never thought of that) The more I think about it, the more I realize that the 1 gallon jugs are a bad idea.

Mach: Yes, what is 50/50 ?

Hayden: I think that is a good way of doing it.

I will try both ways, Thanks


Mach
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# Posted: 25 Oct 2007 07:43


50/50 water and vineger is what i meant.


Name: Mac Harvey
Age: 16
Locality: Davis,CA
Frogs: only darts now
HylaCinerea
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2007 16:59 · Edited by: HylaCinerea


Do fruit flies not reproduce if if given fruit?

nuggular
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2007 17:07


http://www.edsflymeat.com

http://www.azdr.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=29

I hate the hassle of mixing it myself. Four 4lb bags of edsflymeat last me all year.

I get my fly cups here http://superiorenterprise.com/index.php?cPath=21_3 4 get the 30oz cups


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immatater
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# Posted: 13 Nov 2007 03:53


I buy my stuff here: http://www.fruitflystore.com/

I get the blue food and just add water. I've never had trouble with my cultures. You want your flies to be nutritious because the healthier they are, the healthier your frogs (or whatnot) will be ;)

MegophryidaeMan
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# Posted: 13 Nov 2007 07:19


I agree with Nuggs, ED's Flymeat is the best medium I have used. I love how quick it works too. They are also close to me, so I prefer going through them.


kerokero
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2007 21:15


The "fruit flies" bred for PDFs aren't true fruit flies... Drosophila are actually Vinegar flies.

I get my containers and supplies from Ed's (they've been doing it the longest and they really know their stuff!). Their containers are reusable and even dishwasher safe. Their media is just add water and a pinch of bakers yeast. They have a couple different varieties of flies to choose from...

Not getting them all over the house has a lot to do with your tanks being FF proof (so none escape) and how many you let loose during feeding. I recomend starting with wingless FFs, they are easier to handle when learning. They don't produce as much, but with only a couple frogs the difference isn't that serious. The flightliess, glider, and curly winged types have wings and can hop and glide short distances... I always seem to get a few of these running around after I feed because they hop/glide when I don't want them too!

Also... the key to handling flightless FFs is tapping. Tapping the containers will knock them from their perches to the bottom of the container. Also makes them easier to pour.


Corey of the Little Brown Frogs
pollywog_uk
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2007 22:02


I've tried all sorts of culture media and I still find banana based cultures are by far the most productive.
Here's a link to a culture guide from the old British Dendrobatid Group website: http://www.thebdg.org/library/feeding/drosophila_- _the_last_word.htm


kerokero
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2007 23:14


Just beware! Some of the "home made" rather than the ready made "just add water" types can really reek! So I'd do a test culture before commiting to one recipe to see if you can stand the smell. Some aren't too bad, others can get nasty.


Corey of the Little Brown Frogs
Hayden
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2007 23:28


Oh yeah I would definitely agree with Kero!! One of the recipes I got from dendroboard (not the one I mentioned above) smelled so bad after a few weeks that I almost puked when I opened it!! Needless to say I trashed it.

bumblbee
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# Posted: 5 Sep 2012 07:50


Currently I'm using mashed potato flakes, applesauce, mashed banana, and yeast. It's always worked in the past but no so much lately. I'd like to try Hayden's mix, but I just want to know how much of the mashed potato flakes you use and how much of the water/vinegar mix?

Heather
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# Posted: 5 Sep 2012 14:27 · Edited by: Heather


I use 2/3 cup of my mashed tater flake mix to 1 cup water 1 Tbls vinegar

(BTW please be cautious of the post dates... this one is from 5 years ago. Typically I would delete your post to avoid pulling up old threads and pushing new down the list. Thank you )


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